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2006-05-09, 02:10 | Link #22 | |
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Higurashi no Naku Koroni is a sound novel, there are no selection points within the story, no choices to be made by the player, no interactions whatsoever: you click, read, click, read, click, read, and continue until a chapter is over (well, actually, in the past 7 chapters, there has been a couple of selections, but they were all gimmicks, they don't mean or do anything). The game is split into 8 chapters (scenarios, if you would), the first half (1 - 4) consists of what we call the "question" chapters (Onikakushi-hen, Watanagashi-hen, Tatarigoroshi-hen, Himatsubushi-hen), while the second half (5 - 8) are considered to be the "answer" chapters (Meakashi-hen, Tsumihoroboshi-hen, Minagoroshi-hen, and the yet-to-be-released Matsuribayashi-hen). Although we call them "chapters" in this forum, each scenario are completely stand-alone: they each contain their own stories, development, and ending, and are not related to any other chapters directly. Now, as for the relationship between these parallel scenarios. Like I mentioned in another post, for the sake of defining it as something, you should consider the scenarios (chapters) to be different stories occuring in parallel worlds (although Minagoroshi-hen revealed that this isn't quite the case either). The important thing here is to realize that all characters and settings remain exactly the same throughout all scenarios, the only things that are different between the scenarios are the circumstances and happenings. The primary function these parallel worlds is to provide a multi-faceted view for the reader (you) to analyze. For Keiichi and the others, the world within each scenario is their only world. But you, the reader, an outsider, can watch from the sidelines, blessed with the ability to make comparisons, deductions, and determinations based on information gathered from across all the worlds. Timeline wise, it might not be exact, but yes, all the chapters take place at roughly around the same time period, early summer in Hinamizawa (although there are a few exceptions, but you will know them when they come). The anime, then, is basically doing the same thing: showing one scenario, then moving on to the next after the current scenario ends, etc. |
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2006-05-10, 14:58 | Link #24 | |
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2006-05-16, 12:32 | Link #25 |
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Hi, I'm glad I read the forums else I'll be watching the show in a totally DIFFERENT direction!!!
I have some doubts which I hope some kind soul will help to clarify cos I am really confused now. Initally, I thought that the purpose of the different arcs was to explain what happened in the first arcs\ but it seems like the arcs actually portray different realities in a parallel world at the same time? 1) If so, how could some of the events which happened in the second arc explain some of the events in the first arc? For eg. some people said that the reason that Mion knew K1 was talking Oishi (in the first arc) was because she actually disguised as Shion and happened to be in the same restaurant that K1 and Oishi went to for lunch. (second arc) -> But if the second arc does not happen in the same world as the first arc, how could the above arguement be held true? 2) Also what is the role of us viewers when we view thru the different arcs. Eg. intially I thought that the different arcs happen in the same world and we are supposed to piece the story of different timeframe to get the full story (similar to boogiepop phantom anime), but if the different arc portarys different reality, how should we go about watching it? I know this questions are really fundamental but I do hope someone could give me a clearer explanation so that I am able to view this anime in the right direction =) This anime rockS! Thanks! |
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2006-05-16, 14:19 | Link #27 | |
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2006-06-13, 10:10 | Link #28 |
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Do Keiichi's parents and Chie-sensei (I think that's her name?) serve any real important purpose to the plot, or should we not be paying much attention to them? They don't seem to be getting much screentime, leading me to believe that they don't have much of an impact on the storyline, but for some reason I still find them suspicious.
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2006-06-13, 15:07 | Link #29 |
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I have a what I thought was a simple, very quick question, but I've realised it's a little more complex. :/ I don't think it's been answered anywhere.
It's about the TIPS, and how far they can be trusted. First of all, I'm assuming that the information in them can be taken as it's presented; there's nothing twisted by a character's point of view/mental state, like there was in Onikakushi-hen. Is that correct? Secondly, I'm also assuming that in the ones that are conservations between characters, what the characters say could be lies or misinformation. I'm unsure as to whether the TIPS are supposed to provide concrete facts or whether they're just like everything else, and open to interpretation. Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I'm feeling a little confused. x_x; |
2006-06-13, 15:40 | Link #30 | |
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With that said, the TIPs are there to help you solve the mystery behind everything (if that's even possible) and not to mislead the readers. |
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2006-06-13, 17:24 | Link #31 | |
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What's written in the TIPS are evidences, fact, clues, and hints. If the coroner's report says it's a woman, it is a woman Although you don't see the report, what good will Oishi and his partner have in lying at that scene about the coroner's report being a woman? They are talking to their fellow police officers - they can check them out if they want to; and that's what Oishi and Kuma tells them to do. That's how you connect the dots for the TIPS. If the newspaper report says that so-and-so occurred, it occurred. If a character thought that way, that's what he/she thought (psychological state of mind aside). If you see an episode where Rika refers to a call that Satoko made when she was young, there's a record of it that you can read. It's interesting. And, that actual record is factual evidence. How you use the TIPS is another matter. Scrapbooks for instance - it's written down, but it's mainly a theory. How far can you trust that source? It's just a matter of sorting through the evidence just like an investigator - what is reliable and what maybe questionable. If it's between a coroner's medical autopsy report versus some person's theory written in a scrapbook....which one do you trust? How much can you trust? Then again, if you negate the coroner's report becaus he might be "in on it," what do you trust? On the other hand, what are the chances of the coroner misidentifying a corpse as a woman than a man? The body is rather intact, it's not charred up like Takano's corpse from the previous arcs. So, what do you think? Are the TIPS misleading? Perhaps. But these are presented to you directly. Even if they some might seem to take you off-track, you then have to think - what was the purpose of that TIPS to make you go off track? That's where more thinking kicks in. So, write down to yourself notes on which TIPS give you reliable facts, versus some that are highly questionable. You are your own detective - see if you can best Oishi or even Rena! Last edited by kj1980; 2006-09-28 at 09:13. |
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2006-06-14, 03:55 | Link #32 |
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Thanks for that, both of you. It helped a lot... especially since kj1980 seems to have read my mind by using the coroner's report as an example. Sadly I don't think I'm going to be besting Rena or Ooishi any time soon, but this will definitely help my attempt.
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2006-07-02, 08:40 | Link #34 | |
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2006-07-07, 08:17 | Link #35 | |
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2006-07-07, 14:00 | Link #36 |
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What was the inspiration for Higurashi no Naku Koroni?
Explaining, if the idea of placing the plot in a rural village came from the experiences that one or many members of Ryukishi07 had in their childhood growing up in similar villages in the Japanese countryside. |
2006-07-07, 21:09 | Link #37 | |
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2006-07-07, 21:35 | Link #38 | |
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(Looks like kj tossed my post into the game thread for the game-related contents ^^; , so I'll cut and paste this part back here)
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The script itself can be said to be Higurashi's essence: all the most important plot devices came from this play script. But it took a lot of planning and organizing for the story to become what we see in the games today. |
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2006-07-10, 05:57 | Link #39 |
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i understand that the arcs are the same world but with differant happenings to give you answers so that you can solve the mystery.
But is the first arc something like a main-arc? And you have to see the other ones to fill the holes of this „main-arc“ ? because i think there have to be at least some kind of main story... ---- well english is not my mother-tongue so forgive me for mistakes and maybe i have read something wrong...in that case just delete this post :P |
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