2012-10-15, 12:00 | Link #202 |
Banned
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Cairo, Egypt
Age: 29
|
Man, what the hell is going on with the second arc.
1) This arc is trying to really make us hate the antagonist… and really really hate him that simply slaughtering him wouldn't enough. 2) I am sure the season will great, but I had that feeling while watching the episode that I wanted Asuna to wake up and then live on with Kirito from where they left off.. is there a need to drag it that much further? The anime would be awesome if the first arc would be all that it had… 3) The new world design does not appeal to me… the elf pointy ears is just a turn-off… the first arc world was way prettier and nicer. Yeah, the one thing that I really appreciated about the first arc of SAO was the lack of most high-fantasy aspects (i.e. no magic, humans as only playable species, etc). I’m rather disappointed that Kirito and co. will be flying around with pixie wings for the next dozen episodes or so. |
2012-10-15, 18:16 | Link #203 |
Administrator
Join Date: Dec 2003
Age: 42
|
For the antagonist, as I said in the other thread, let's at least wait and see what happens and if he's really really as simple a villain as we saw portrayed this last time. If he is that simple, well, he'll clearly be defeated soundly anyway. Methinks he hasn't really thought through his brilliant plan. Hating such an idiot isn't even necessary.
As for having things "pick up where they left off"... I think that's hard precisely because of the way the first story ended -- their relationship developed so much that what realistic obstacle can get in the way? As you say, ending the story there would be one possibility, but given that it didn't end there, they have to find a way to bring Kirito/Kazuto back into the game world. It's a bit of a turn as far as the story goes, but I think it serves a purpose. As for the new game's designs... I guess it's obvious that it'll be a matter of taste. I, for one, really like the new design -- always been a big fan of "high-fantasy". I liked the world of SAO, but the new world looks beautiful to me too from what we've seen in the OP/ED. But yeah, clearly different people will have different preferences here. In the end, the base characters are the same regardless of the avatar they're playing as anyway.
__________________
|
2012-10-16, 03:00 | Link #204 | |
Banned
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: East Asia
Age: 32
|
Quote:
Spoiler for Comparison to Accel World:
2) If Asuna were to be "freed" from VRMMO prison, then she would probably keep being glued to Kirito throughout the story, thus absolutely prevent any other girls to make more developments with Kirito (In this arc's case, it's Sugu) 3) It's just a matter of taste. Probably you're a hardcore fan of pure action or martial arts story that completely devoid of fantasy setting. Last edited by relentlessflame; 2012-10-16 at 03:25. Reason: added spoiler for comparison... |
|
2012-10-16, 15:31 | Link #205 | |
Explodes when thrown
IT Support
Join Date: Jan 2009
Age: 38
|
Quote:
(Also - who's Miss Goldenhair from the OP? That's our other girl for this arc, other than Yui's return (yay!)) However, without putting them back into a VRMMO, it's just not the same story anymore. And Kayaba was defeated in-game, but still apparently hasn't been found. There's a thread I don't think it would be smart for the show to drop. Re: New Evil Guy - My fiance already hates him so much she was vibrating when we watched the episode. They certainly did a good job with that part, but I think he has something to do with keeping some - at least Asuna, but maybe others - of the players trapped in the new game. It's like relentlessflame's thought - he can't be that simple, can he?
__________________
|
|
2014-11-30, 03:20 | Link #211 |
Senior Member
|
Her character isn't anything special. She has insanely good reflexes, she made that 11 hit combo skill by herself, and as we saw in this episode, she's practically an acrobat when it comes to fighting both people and NPCs.
Sure, her character is probably fairly high-levelled, but I can't imagine it being any better than Kirito or Asuna's characters. Especially considering she supposedly just transferred to ALO recently. |
2014-11-30, 03:23 | Link #212 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
|
Quote:
So, personally, I will assume she's stronger until proven otherwise.
__________________
|
|
2014-11-30, 03:27 | Link #213 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
|
Quote:
|
|
2014-11-30, 03:34 | Link #214 |
Senior Member
|
Did it seem to you like she had an unfair advantage in her duel with Asuna though? It looked to me like they were both doing fairly similar amounts of damage to each other, and I thought it was made fairly clear that Asuna lost because she was outplayed, not because she was outlevelled.
Also, as was described in the Fairy Dance arc, ALO is a skill-based system. Your individual skills (ie One Handed Sword Skill) is supposedly more important than your characters actual level, if the characters have actual levels. And judging by the fact Kirito can clearly use Excalibur (a Legendary weapon) and judging by discussion here Liz can use Mjolnir (a Legendary Weapon), if we assume they have the same requirements as other Legendary Weapons (ie Eugene's sword from Fairy Dance) they will require a Skill level of 950...out of a max of 1000. I think it should be pretty safe to assume that Kirito is at the top end of the character strength spectrum if he's using Legendary weapons, and if Liz is capable of it too, I find it hard to believe that Asuna isn't right up there with them. |
2014-11-30, 04:43 | Link #215 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
|
Skill with the sword isn't the only important thing, it's speed and reflexes as well. Kirito admitted that Yuuki was faster than him and her reflexes were better. Asuna was also mentioned as being faster then him too though Kirito's reflexes were better.
In any case with the battle Asuna originally started with normal swordsplay as using high end sword skills have a lag moment afterward as they have to allow the system to guide their movements and if the enemy blocks or dodges, (or fails to finish them) they're wide open to a counter. (This was shown distinctly in the previous arc Calibur) Asuna judged it'd be too risky to eat a counter from Yuuki but when Yuuki showed her speed and reflexes in the opening exchange Asuna was forced to adjust and risk using sword skills. She was seeking an opening to use a big attack on Yuuki which is why she surprised her with an unarmed attack, which caused Yuuki to flinch and leave her open yet she was able to recover in time to block the strikes of Asuna's sword skill and after that Asuna was stuck in a skill lag lock which left her wide open for Yuuki's 11 hit combo, Asuna broke out of the lag in the middle of the combo and used her own combo attack to counter but it wasn't enough to break Yuuki's attack which decided the match. |
2014-11-30, 04:58 | Link #216 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: beside you, staring at you.
|
was it mentioned that yuuki is faster than bullets? he can swat bullets but not yuuki's blades dayum she's hella fast then. makes me wonder how would kirito defeat her if she was an enemy. well in ep 18 she had about half of her life points left(and so is Kirito), so I guess, what kirito or maybe asuna needs is more powerful OSS than MR.
|
2014-11-30, 23:33 | Link #217 | |
Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
|
Quote:
|
|
2014-12-01, 06:26 | Link #218 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
|
Quote:
The anime portrayed as a close match to make it more engaging, but Asuna never stood a chance, and that wouldn't have changed even if Yuuki didn't have her OSS.
__________________
|
|
Thread Tools | |
|
|