2004-05-31, 01:21 | Link #262 |
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Well, I figure at some point there are no more levels - on a 1-5 star scale even though you might want to give something 7 stars, the review will still say 5.
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Finally, the newer conclusion that I've come to based on the past few pages: The Sharingan is better at one-on-one fighting and quick skill enhancement. The Byakugan is better at multiple-opponent taijutsu fighting (probably ninjutsu; I'm not too sure) , spying, scouting, detecting traps, and pretty much every other occasion that doesn't require direct combat. |
2004-05-31, 04:46 | Link #263 | ||
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Besides Hizashi is a tad stronger than Hiyashi, even Kishimoto's book shows this. Be as we all know Itachi is the strongest guy ever and like it would be impossbile for anyone to be stronger than him, and it would also be impossible that there is more to the Byagukan than what's shown so far. Quote:
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2004-05-31, 12:54 | Link #264 |
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There are too many people who like the sharingan. As there are too many peopel who don't read the manga. Probably because Neji "was" an ass and we've only seen a genin hyuga, and the anime kind of made Hiashi seem weak by prolonging his kaiten by say about the whol entire time it was shown, it was only 1 panel in the manga. And the anime people are overreacting towards Itachi simple as that.
Who sasy there ins't more to the byukagan? It hasn't even been shown some of the abilities Kakashi says they have. Like increasing chakra flow. We haven't seen an example of that. We haven't seen a lot of things that has been said, and I'm definitely sure there are more movees. Even as of now with what the byukagan can do according to Kakashi it's better. But there are more moves possible that can do what has been said. How about incrasing your flow? It would be like the curse seal, forcing out chakra. They can do a lot of things that has been said but Neji hasn't learned, unless you're saying Kakashi is lying? |
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And that's exatly why until the manga states a new bloodline's ability, it doesn't have it. And anyway to know that you're in a genjutsu doesn't help you. Quote:
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And that's something that a Sharingan can as well. And yes even without bloodline (because this way to analyze moves is an irl stuff lol) to see how eyes moves, if someone touches his lips, if someone put his hands in front of him as to defend himself, etc. isn't so incredibly hard. Quote:
Did the manga ever hinted that the Byakugan would have new capacities? The last time was during the volume 12, since now 13 volumes, the only things added to the Byakugan were its extents. Does that means that the Byakugan will never has new abilities? No-one can say that except Kishimoto, but for the moment it has not. When you judge an ability, you do it with what you know of the ability, not with what you hope that it will be. Quote:
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Like you I think that the Byakugan is better at first with everything that doesn't require direct combat (or Taijutsu of course), but that can change when a Sharingan master copy a new jutsu which can 'upgrade' him in a particular field of ability. Quote:
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2004-05-31, 15:32 | Link #267 | |
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Because you guys keep comparing Itachi's Sharigan and the fact that we SEEN all his amazing Mange Sharigan attacks, to..........Neji, last time I checked Neji hasn't mastered his Byakugan, then you compare it to Hiyashi's which we only see 5 seconds of actual combat with him, then we add in that Hizashi is probably the stronger of the two brothers, hence Neji pretty much being the strongest kid Hyuuga at the moment because Hiyashi's kids are so damn weak. Another thing I noticed, the Uchiha clan was feared because of Itachi, when people talked about the Uchiha clan, it's just about Itachi, no one else in that clan is ever talked about as being powerful, seems like Itachi is a one off type of thing. Anyways, until we see more of the anime/manga, it stands now that the Sharigan is stronger in certain aspects than the Byakugan, but give the series more time before we have another discussion like this. Besides Neji wasn't called the strongest kid in Konoha for nothing. Sasuke was the strongest in his class, but Neji was the strongest kid in Konoha, but that's not suppose to be right, because Sasuke is a Uchiha Also about the Sharigan just copying something and bam the user is God, they still have to train months. Look at Sasuke using Rock's speed, he uses it for 5 minutes, and he's having asthma attacks Last edited by Ke0; 2004-05-31 at 15:54. |
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2004-05-31, 15:48 | Link #270 |
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Nr. 1 Rookie, just like Sasuke was the Nr. 1 Rookie. Neji wasn't a rookie anymore. Also, if you want to argue against it, Sasuke was no match for Neji at the time, as stated by Kakashi (He should know, since he and Sasuke "are the same"). I don't think Sasuke's speed boost would help him much against Neji either (I think the easy speed boost thingy, goes for both clans), but this is a Byakugan vs. Sharingan not a Sasuke vs. Neji, so I'll stop going off topic
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Personally I don't think so because I think that if Kakashi said to both Asuma and Kurenai to close their eyes, it was because the Tsukiyomi (or this kind of jutsu anyway) can be used on several target at once. Quote:
Get real 3s, if the Uchiha clan was only known to be able to have one strong ninja who whiped them all in a single night, they would be known as the laughable clan, not the most superior clan, not the fearest clan, not the stronger clan, etc. Seriously re-read the manga, Zabuza, Kakashi, Orochimaru, Lee, Itachi or the rest of the arena including Daymio and ninja leader didn't want to see Sasuke, they wanted to see an Uchiha, when Oro impersonating Kagekaze said that no opponent but an Uchiha could show off Sand's ninjas capacities, you didn't see the 3rd thinking what the hell this moron is saying either. Every single time that Sasuke does something hard/cool/great/etc. there is someone (Gai, Lee, Kakashi, Oro, etc.) who said Hmmm so that's the Uchiha clan! No one ever speaks about Itachi when they talk about the genius Uchiha clan. Quote:
Then Lee's in the same boat as Sasuke. The high speed of Lee drains his stamina as much as for Sasuke, the only difference is their respective amount of stamina. And during his fight with Gaara, Lee started to look tired because of this kind of speed almost immediately, even before Gaara used the armor of Sand. Exactly as Sasuke actually. Both of them were out of breath just after their second blow on Gaara's face. & Both of them can't keep this kind of speed too long. |
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Oh! I also think Naruto will overcome the Tsukiyomi if it will ever be used against him. Well, it could happen, since that would be another example on how important a strong will really is.
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Now, we can imagine a Genjutsu which would seem perfectly like the real world, and which wouldn't paralyze the opponent. In this case it could be useful to know that the character than you see aren't real (because they wouldn't have chakra system or something like that). |
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2004-05-31, 17:15 | Link #276 |
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lol i knew that soon as i wrote it ;D i was going to feebly argue that they all had weird abilities....but ;D that didnt seem like a possiblity.
Hmmm i wonder tho...Do you think each GenJutsu has a counter? If so then all GenJutsu are probally listed....why else would Kureani be surprised Itachi ued GenJutsu counter...? (I love skirting what is and what could be a spoiler ;D) |
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I plainly agree with the fact that Itachi could be torn out of reality by his own Genjutsu, actually, I think that it's the true reason why he mustn't use this jutsu too many times and not just because it uses much chakra. The concentration to create a world like that must be incredible, and the more time Itachi tortures the mind of someone inside this illusion world, the more time his mind must be concentrated. Think about it, if Itachi took Kakashi during 3 days, his mind must be inside the Tsukiyomi during 3 days as well. And if you're exhausted by this gigantic concentration, to create this world once again is increasingly dangerous because you will end up slackening your attention... and snape your own mind inside the world of Tsukiyomi. Quote:
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*Itachi stabbing some Katana's in Kyubi's back and talking he controls everything.* *Kyubi:Ow yeah, right there stab it more more. Hmm damn you are good in giving a massage* *Itachi:...* *Kyubi: I think i will stick here for couple of years!* *Itachi:..wha?
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