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Perfect 10 | 15 | 27.27% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 10 | 18.18% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 3 | 5.45% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 9 | 16.36% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 5 | 9.09% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.82% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 4 | 7.27% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 4 | 7.27% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 1.82% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 3 | 5.45% | |
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2012-06-16, 22:04 | Link #281 | |
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Every way I can think of for Zessica to come out of this alive involves a complete asspull (such as what you mentioned about her quickly getting over Amata - like flipping a light switch - in two episodes or less!). Zessica's at a point now where she actually needs crappy writing in order to stay alive.
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2012-06-16, 22:20 | Link #282 | |
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The part that's going to require some kind of asspulls is her getting a truly happy end as she is pretty much guaranteed to have a bittersweet end right now. |
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2012-06-16, 23:40 | Link #284 | |
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Or Mykage really. |
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2012-06-17, 00:51 | Link #285 | ||
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Zessica might or might not be able to do it, but the fact remains that Mykage is in her body. If she's able to turn the tables on him, she's got great access to him. It's all up to her (and the writers!) whether she's able to. Of course it would have been better for her to resist when Mykage was taking her over, but this isn't what all possessed characters tend to do in fiction. Nope, they need to gather their resolve and fight them off. She may be able to take the opportunity to show Mykage what he's lacking. Quote:
This is Aquarion. Such an occurrence wouldn't be beyond the bounds of reason. Hmm. It's silly, but I like this idea. |
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2012-06-17, 01:31 | Link #286 | ||
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(1.) Rebuild Atlandia (2.) Revive his dead people (3.) Fix his anger at being lied to about Pollon. And if it did, that'd just be hilariously bad writing and genuine character assassination. He can sympathize with Zessica but that doesn't mean that she somehow holds the magic key to fixing him. That's not in the cards and the only person who can do that is the person who started it all, Apollonius. Not to mention that this is all extremely hypocritical of Pollon and Celianne who caused this mess. Pollon not being able to let go is what ruined Touma's atonement and brought about Mykage in EVOL, and Celianne's been riding the train for 24,000 years and never letting go either. Wouldn't it be much better to have them fix Mykage? Why do they get ignored in this and get free passes? What's the aesop? If you're the main characters, clinging to love for 24,000 years is A-OK! But if you're the villain and/or someone unrelated to reincarnations, its not? What sort of story is that? Wasted potential is every character in this show. But no one's been assassinated, closest is Mikono with how just osculates back and forth between two completely different roles.
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2012-06-17, 02:50 | Link #287 |
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Apollonius needs to apologize, that's true. However the main offender was Pollon who really needs to apologize and make amends. Had Apollo actually been Apollonius than Touma would have happily just faded away, with Apollonius and Celiane being happy, and never returned. It was finding out the truth about Apollo and Apollonius not being around that made him snap again.
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2012-06-17, 05:45 | Link #288 | |
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2012-06-17, 06:07 | Link #289 |
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Since Apollo is Pollon that means it his fault by default, at least as far as Mykage/Touma is concerned. Pollon may have wished hard to be with Celiane, thus thinking he was Apollonius, but that doesn't change that he was still Pollon in the end.
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2012-06-17, 06:56 | Link #291 | |
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Apollo though was really misguided. He really thought that the love he had with Celiane was legendary and that the entire universe was jealous of their love. In the end, due to the Pollon reveal, he was never a part of that Legendary love and was just a part of the Universe that was jealous and envied the love between Apollonius and Celiane. No one cares for Pollon and even when he fooled everyone in Genesis he was ignored in favor of the legendary love of Apollonius and Celiane. Than the reveal in EVOL where everyone was like "Oh? He's a dog? O....kay?". Even with that reveal Pollon is still treated like a nobody. No one even cares enough to hate him for tricking Celiane or tricking Touma which lead to all the BS in Evol. |
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2012-06-17, 07:01 | Link #292 | ||||
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I don't think that Pollon has anything to apologise for, as it wasn't wrong of him to wish to meet Celiane again. Even if he was wrong (which I say he isn't), Apollo certainly isn't to blame, since he barely remembered anything of his past life anyway. Fudo did make a point of saying that people should not be living their lives thinking of themselves just as reincarnations. He was definitely going for a living the life you have now thing.
Toma/Mykage is responsible for his own problems and choices. It's natural that he would be upset over Apollonius leaving him, but after a point the blame which could be given to Apollonius for that dries up and it's all on Toma. The responsibility for turning into Mykage lies on him. (It's analogous to real life exes who go around saying things like "I'll kill myself and other people if you don't come back to me and love me!", because especially after a certain point of bitterness and batshit, you can't be blamed for what they do.) That said. Apollonius is a powerful person, and if - if - he is still around, he may well know what's going on and be able to intervene in some way. If all of him is stuck in Aquarion, maybe there's nothing he can do. If he's also Fudo and Crea, that means he's still directly involved in the conflict, and it does make me wonder why he hasn't done more. A lot of other characters have been jerked around by Toma. Are cryptic comments really all that he's able to manage? Even though Toma is responsible for his own actions, he's really on another level from all of the characters except perhaps any remaining pieces of Apollonius, and Fudo too, if Fudo isn't Apollonius. Maybe Crea as well. I would argue that Apollonius and/or Fudo has a responsibility to do his best to help the others out as much as he's able to. It would help if he would talk plainly to others more often. Quote:
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2012-06-17, 07:10 | Link #293 |
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Whether he intentionally planned to trick Celiane and Touma doesn't change that he did just that as a consequence over his jealous desire to have Celiane for himself. Than thinking that the memories and love that Celiane and Apollonius had for each other were his own when he was just a bystander in all that. The least Pollon can do is say "Look, I've always loved Celiane even thugh she loved Apollonius but I never intended to hurt anyone with my wish to maybe fall in love with her in another life. I want you to know that I'm really sorry for deceiving you 12,000 years go, it wasn't my intent since at that time I really thought I was Apollonius.". It would at least be something, after all Touma believes that Apollo intentionally tricked him. So of course he's pissed.
And what good has Fudo been again? For all his talks nothing ever seems to go the way for the heroes or for him. Maybe he should stop worrying about ignoring the past and actually try and mend fences so this stuff doesn't happen again in the future. Just a thought, since he apparently knew who Apollo was the entire time and still kept everyone in the dark. Touma gave up his hatred at the end of Genesis, his hatred only returned and festered for 12,000 years because he found out that he was tricked by a dog, a nobody that impersonated his beloved Apollonius whether it was intentional or not he doesn't know. All he knows is that he was tricked and had hid heart broken once again. Last edited by Destined_Fate; 2012-06-17 at 07:27. |
2012-06-18, 00:16 | Link #294 |
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I do really have wished to give this episode a flawless score, because it delivered with everything in drama, recollection, angst, revelations, the truth, and tragedy.
I mean an hour ago I watched the twenty-third episode to Fate Zero and left me almost at the brink of tears to the loss endured, and now with this episode of Aquarion EVOL dealing two tragic losses made me to sob for real. Spoiler:
I never hated Izumo at all and have considered him one of the strongest antagonists/supporting characters; his piloting skills to move the Ignis and summoning the Altair cannon, that actually was able to cancel the Legendary Aquarion's union as a last act against Mikage, proved that he was a serious powerhouse of a pilot. Now for me Mikage has hit a full bottom love, and it doesn't matter that all for what he did was due to heartbreak borned from deceit. I feel angry, but at the same time craving intensely to see what happens in the next episode. |
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