2006-02-03, 17:50 | Link #21 |
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Woa! You guys are all right! I need to watch the show again (it's been some 2 years since I saw the first episode). Argh! So many clues. >_<
I've heard that 20th century boys is actually better than monster. But we'll probably have to wait like 10 years before viz (and Urasawa) finishes the series. |
2006-02-03, 18:32 | Link #22 |
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Well, 20th century boys is more gripping than monster, in the suspense sense, but less attached to reality, so it could appeal less to some people.
But a well made 20th century boys anime could just redefine the word "cliffhanger". There are so many chapters that let you bite your nails waiting for the next one, so many red herrings, no many surprises... It just rocks... And Pluto is even better, still. |
2006-02-03, 19:51 | Link #23 |
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Best. Anime. Ever.
Just like most of you, I think it's hard to describe just how good this anime really is. The incredible writing, the fantastic character development, the awsome research on Germany and other places, the amazing attention to detail, the superb character designs (I can't believe the amount of designs fitting of main characters in ordinary mangas/animes), the voice acting and even the animation was really great. Just take the man with the baby who lost his wife in one of the last episodes. His facial expressions during that whole scene, and especially once he turns back to his wife and starts crying... just amazing... The last few episodes really were great. I agree with ChainLegacy, the Runge scene (really, all his scenes during his fight with Roberto) was among the very best of all anime I've seen. And while it might be a bit hard to follow over such a long period of time, I really loved the complexity of the plot. I'm definitely watching this again, hopefully I'll be able to follow the plot with a bit more ease this time. Also, someone mentioned filler, it must have been pretty good, because I'm usually pretty good at spotting filler. Anyway, I'd be glad if I could have the filler pointed out to me, that would be interesting. |
2006-02-04, 01:41 | Link #24 | |
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To answer abit of these questions Spoiler:
Now, I have some questions... Spoiler:
Yep. Those 3 are the things that are bothering me most. Overall, I love monster, the story is top notch, and I loooooove the final arc. |
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2006-02-05, 22:31 | Link #31 |
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[QUOTE=ddraggy]About Tenma and Johan:
[Spoiler] this is what i think about Monster and part of the plot first : Anna forgave Johan for all the bad stuff johan did over the years , remember johan did kill a bunch of people and controlled people Second : Roberto didn't kill Runge cuz he wanted to see " The landscape of the End" or so i think why didn't Tenma said the names of Johan/Anna? and what happend to Johan in the end? i know he scaped ..but where ? What did the Drunk guy saw...he did say he saw a beast with 7 heads and horns , it sounded like a beast from the Apocalipse , would have been great if they have showed and image of that beast ! |
2006-02-06, 15:40 | Link #36 |
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If you think about it, Johan never existed in the first place.
There are a lot of hidden metaphors within this anime series. Johan was just an imagination of Anna, if you think about it very closely. This is why the writers of the animation chose them to be "twins" and in the final episode, you realize that they look exactly the same. In addition, Johan "disappears" at the end and his real name is never actually revealed because he never existed in the first place. He is a pigment of Anna's imagination. Anna was taken as a tool of revenge and trained to become an ultimate soldier for terrorist operations. She became traumatized by visualizing her supposed brother "Johan" as being shot and killed, trying to destroy her past in the orphanages. Think about it carefully. |
2006-02-06, 16:34 | Link #38 | |
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So would that mean, that Dr. Tenma just pretented to operate upon a young boy that day and spend his life chasing him? *this was the first thing that pops to my mind*... I'll stop there as my mind would hurt |
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2006-02-07, 10:27 | Link #40 | |
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Also, isn't Frauline 'Miss' or something? I don't think it's a name. |
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