2015-05-05, 11:05 | Link #401 | |
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2015-05-05, 12:13 | Link #402 |
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> Isn't that the same as kill him/her?
I think the difference is similar to-- which one you prefer; Someone that you have emotional attachment died with your agreement or killed by people with guns instead? Both ended up with 'bad ending', IMO it would be better through retrieval procedure since there's proper farewell compare to-- killed by guns. > Why Tsukasa shocked when he receive the gun? He's shocked not because it kill Giftia, he shocked because it could lead to worst case scenario where he can't fulfill his promise to Souta. At the beginning of the episode, you could see Tsukasa put priority on "Bring her back", of course having the virus gun allowed would affect his decision; Hence leading to him tried to approach Marcia by giving hand instead of using the gun, believing that he could solve the problem peacefully rather than kill her right there. That's his character from the very start of this show, not to mention this is his first capture mission with killing weapon allowed for him. > What's the difference in the flashback? Err ... Rather than "No Terminal Service" case, I think that caused by Michiru running away from other spotters but Kazuki. With Kazuki as the only person she know would solve the problem peacefully during that time, running away from other spotters is expected as we learns from other episode that Yamanobe's division is the only division that use peaceful approach to both Giftias and owners IIRC. |
2015-05-05, 22:08 | Link #405 |
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I can't say I bought into the "human rights" rationale for Giftias not having a GPS locator. I thought the guy who took the "they are machines, after all" position had the stronger argument. The fact that they can "go Wanderer" makes being able to track them all the more important.
I also assumed Isla was at best seriously injured from the "gun" shot. She tries to get Tsukasa not to use the weapon because, I suspect, she knew she might be affected as well. Could she not tell the weapon was charging before she ran forward?
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2015-05-05, 22:51 | Link #406 |
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I have been thinking a little ... in this episode we are shown the existence of a "limiter" and that when Giftia go into "wanderer" mode it "auto-switches" off.
Others have asked why it is there in the first place, and the opinions given were mainly for use in emergency situations - where the Giftia had to save the owner. I agree with this, but for me this implies that the Giftia while "normal" can consciously choose to remove the limiter. It could be that here we finally have a clue as to why Isla's motor functions are also in decline - I would be willing to bet that she has switched off her limiter, particularly during her work with Kazuki previously. I would also guess that Giftia have a limited amount of time they can be in that state before it begins to take a toll on them physically and that Isla is such an example. This would explain not only why she kept assuring Tsukasa that she would handle whatever came up with Marcia going into Wanderer mode - but it would also explain why at the last scene it showed Isla was not shown on the board to be "at work". My guess (lots of guesses here) is that she removed her limiter, saved Souta somehow, Marcia got hit by Tsukasa's gun and then when she put the limiter back on the toll on her body was such that she was unable to go to work ... possibly either staying at her apartment or else in for repairs? Also, some posts back it was mentioned that one possible scenario is that SIA did not create from scratch but rather discovered the Giftia technology (alien technology, forgotten civilization, whatever) and have thus far only been able to control it to a limited extent. I think this could indeed be an outside possibility....
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2015-05-06, 00:13 | Link #407 |
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While I liked Guilty Crown, the problem with that series is they seem to change writing and directing staff several times, so far PM is staying constant although were only 5 episodes in. I'm not dropping it because I see the potential for epicness but I've been burned by series with that kind of potential too
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2015-05-06, 02:55 | Link #408 | |
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2015-05-06, 05:59 | Link #409 | |
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About the cliffhanger, it's a bit of a weak cliffhanger if I can say, considering Isla's personality I don't know if we would see the difference.
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2015-05-07, 10:31 | Link #410 | |
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But why is Section One allowed to do whatever? I am not sure, but their actions are perfectly explainable if you consider them to be (android) human rights activists. It seems like most of their human team members have a deep emotional connection to Giftias. The problem is the show has focused so much on Section One and Giftia families that we haven't really got an outsider's perspective on the matter. I dare say even though there are rights in place for androids, most of society, especially those that don't deal with them, still doesn't see them as nothing more than objects. I think R Security and other Terminal Service Sections are far closer to the regular man on the street than Section One. To call them irresponsible if you consider that it is their motivation to treat them like human beings is taking it out of context. Section One is a special case of people, but that's usually how it goes when society faces a new horizon. If you've read any of my previous posts, you'll notice I was gung-ho on them being a gadget. But if their wiring does make them more biological than mechanical, then there's validity for them to exist, especially if they have such developed intelligence. That they turn into Wanderers was probably not the creator's design goal, but an unplanned consequence of their existence. It seems like SAI took the good with the bad and decided to control the bad. |
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2015-05-08, 11:08 | Link #411 |
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It doesn't really matter how human Giftias are, Section 1 is still irresponsible. I'd say the same if, say, Giftias were actual human beings infected by a zombie virus that takes a few days to incubate. By all means, make their last moments as comfortable as possible. But don't give them the option of turning into wanderers.
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2015-05-08, 12:04 | Link #412 |
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That + Flashback...
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and I still go back to my post... why... does Gifta's memories disappear in the first place? and why doesn't they even considered some sort of backup data? (like our world's cloud service with real time back ups so even if you crash out of no where it would still restore everything up until it crashes) |
2015-05-09, 03:58 | Link #413 | |
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I wonder about the methodologies of other Sections. They still need a signature before they can retrieve the Giftia. How do they get owners to sign? Because only two accidents occurred in three years, it could be that Section One was just very unlucky. After all, both cases involved children as Giftia owners. The same thing could have happened to any other section, bar them forcefully taking Giftias away before the deadline, but as we know that would constitute breaking the law. |
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2015-05-09, 13:13 | Link #414 | |
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2015-05-09, 13:41 | Link #415 |
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Episode 6:
This smile :3 Glad to see Isla doing better now after what happened last time. Silly episode though, especially with some minor misunderstandings regarding "love". It doesn't surprise me about Tsukasa's decision to stay with Isla even after finding out about her life span though. That's the type of selfless person he is.
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2015-05-09, 14:29 | Link #416 |
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How Isla lost her human partner..
No wonder she is so withdrawn. Tsukasa really cares about him & she is starting to open up a bit. Still, it was hard to deal with the Marcia aftermath.. Isla's lifespan is just too short... That fact will make their relationship better, but will also be a burden.
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2015-05-09, 15:33 | Link #417 |
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Ep 06
Hmm...overall that was a pretty good episode, and rather moving at the end there. In this ep they showed some restraint with the comedy, though, and it seemed to give a better overall effect - for me at least. If only they had done so in ep 3 -_- Anyway overall I like where things seem to be going and am more optimistic...for now. ^^
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