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2010-01-23, 01:59 | Link #5602 | |
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This is why it's hard to take you at face value. These people I listed do name call, and play childish games, yet you look to find excuses for why their name calling is called for. If you can't stand olberman's fear mongering and outraegous accusations and allegations how can you stomach that of rush limbaugh or glen beck or pat obrian. |
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2010-01-23, 02:11 | Link #5603 | |
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And when the hell did I ever say I find excuses in name calling from people in any position of power? I find it hard to take many people on this forum seriously when almost no one here EVER posts links proving their accusations. |
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2010-01-23, 02:25 | Link #5604 |
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He did call Obama racist after the Gates incident and he did compare the the Obama administration to the Nazi-era Germany regime(without the exermination).
The Obama is racist part(he's defending himself): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_bOmMTIfWM I would link the video to Nazi comparision but it has liberal comments in the background and I doubt you would like that. |
2010-01-23, 02:34 | Link #5605 | |
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I don't know if Barak Obama is racist or not. I do know, that he keeps some very bad company. Whether it was his Mentor Reverend Wright, or those he surrounds himself with in his Staff and Administration. Company that make Bush's cabinet look like saints(never thought I'd say that). And I don't think it's a mistake that he surrounds himself with such people. |
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2010-01-23, 02:37 | Link #5606 |
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Maybe we need a separate thread on "Culture and Politics in the US" so we don't bore the crap out of the rest of the world in the News thread
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2010-01-23, 02:44 | Link #5608 | |
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There, then. The original video where he said it from his own mouth. You said you never heard Beck call Obama an racist among many things. The interview with Katie Couric was after the fact where he was defending why he called Obama a racist, whether he is right or not. |
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2010-01-23, 02:49 | Link #5610 | |
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@justinstrife your latest comment is just ridiculous. Obama is does not hate white people, and my point is if you don't like olbermann because he calls people names that's fine but if the truth is you don't like his message then be honest about it. Don't try to hide that you beleive olbermann is ridiculous if you continue to look for excuses for people you agree with. I may be liberal but I found olbermann's comments about brown completely outrageous and to me it destroyed the image of somebody defending the notion of truth first, and although I rarely watch his show I find him repulsive. I'm just saying you don't have to try to display a fair open mind when you in fact believe the message is more important. You have really solidified the fact that anything said to you will automatically be thrown out because it doesn't match your ideology and it's a shame, because America doesn't need dividers and partisan bickering it needs solutions but as long as the Us vs them mentality continues to fill each party with delusions of grandeur America will be nothing but a sad shell of it's former self. |
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2010-01-23, 02:52 | Link #5611 | |
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I'd still like to see video proof of him calling Obama a Nazi as I still haven't heard it. I have to believe because of the proof shown me tonight that he has called Obama racist. But I still have to see the other accusations proofs.
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2010-01-23, 02:58 | Link #5612 | |
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In the end, the popular commentators seldom have any legitimate facts (they will have names, and sometimes real quotes, but more often those quotes are taken way out of context or they are so out-of-date that even mentioning them seems silly (considering how politicians change their opinions with the populus) to support their wild accusations)... edit: Beck doesn't directly call Obama a Nazi, rather he compares Obama's potential policies (often, before they are even written) to Nazi policies. More often, Beck, and many others, will simply settle for the almost umbrella terms "fascists" or "socialist"). |
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2010-01-23, 03:05 | Link #5614 |
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"She was a beautiful English princess who married one of Europe's most powerful monarchs and dazzled subjects with her charity and charm. Now an international team of scientists say they think they've found the body of Princess Eadgyth (pronounced Edith) - a 10th-century noblewoman"
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT ... from a period of time that tends to fascinate me.
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2010-01-23, 03:07 | Link #5615 |
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...n_AboveLEFTTop
On C-Span tonight Clinton called for freedom of information yet did not call for net neutrality. The irony of her statement just made me sad, with out net neutrality there is no freedom of information because that information is no longer free. It clearly was a potshot at China, and after the drumming at the Coppenhagen Environment Summit it's understandable that the U.S. is trying to maintain dominance. |
2010-01-23, 03:08 | Link #5616 | |
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As to Beck's using the word facist... Wikipedia's definition fits to some degree. In the economic sphere, many fascist leaders have claimed to support a "Third Way" in economic policy, which they believed superior to both the rampant individualism of unrestrained capitalism and the severe control of state socialism.[15][16] This was to be achieved by establishing significant government control over business and labour (Italian fascist leader Mussolini called his nation's system "the corporate state") No common and concise definition exists for fascism and historians and political scientists disagree on what should be in any such definition.[19] Depending on your view of facism, the definition can work, or can't work. Seems like there's arguments for all sides. |
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2010-01-23, 03:27 | Link #5620 | |
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The same is true of a Liberal commentator using "conservative" or any Conservative commentator using the words "liberal" or "progressive", though. In fact, it could be said that no commentator uses the word(s) quite right. The right, despite their history of progressive and liberal reform, turns the word(s) "liberal" into a slur. And, the left equally turn the word "conservative" into a slur, despite their positive use of conservatism in the past. |
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