2021-04-17, 17:51 | Link #62 |
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Mmm I don't know if the speadhead wants to be mean to her or they don't want to let their guard down because she seems to really care about them since there were some scenes were they looked mad at her talking and then sad, I don't know. I think there seems to be a few who could give her chance and others than don't. I'm looking foward to see how lena win their hearts lol.
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2021-04-17, 18:30 | Link #63 | ||
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Granted no matter how hard Lena tries to empathize and connect with Spearhead Squadron, the situation they're in and their treatment by the Alba will probably always make that difficult. Look at how her previous squad reacted to her apology for losing their commander and her saying she was going to take over Spearhead.
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2021-04-17, 18:31 | Link #64 |
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The media in the first episode were talking about the "unmaned drones" being a technological advancement. And why would the heroine make the fact the Juggernauts are manned seem like a big reveal when talking to the students?
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2021-04-17, 18:36 | Link #65 | |
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Even the students in the class didn't seem to register that much surprise to what she was saying because despite the facts she was spitting out they were still thinking the Eighty-Six were basically a lesser species akin to a pig which is the company line.
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2021-04-17, 18:38 | Link #66 | |
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The sadness you are referring to is more about the topic of the end of their terms in the military. The actual truth is not that they are manned but that they are deathtraps and the processors should be considered human and not a disposable part. Lena is protected by Jerome, but another officer would have been severely punished for saying that 86 are humans. Anyway that's the eternal problem approaching Eighty Six: even those who translated the previews were under the impression that the manned aspect of the drones was a twist, while in reality the republic is just transparently racist which is actually more shocking. |
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2021-04-17, 20:06 | Link #68 |
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Sawano's overly-loud, always-vocal, redundant (but cool if you look at them individually) music is fine and all, but dang, the SE of the mecha are so squeaky. A little bit too much KyuiiiinKyuuiiin-ing.
So apparently the fact there are people riding on the machines is known by everyone, but since everyone don't consider them humans, they think it is correct to call these unpiloted? Umm... I guess? Considering this country is probably under some silver-haired conspiracy involving some kind of sci-fi science because these stories all do that, I'll go with it. They're all in cahoots.
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2021-04-17, 20:17 | Link #69 | |
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Although it's not like Lena can do anything even if she continues to call out how inhumane and wrong it all is when no one will listen to her and she's not high enough on the totem pole to make any policy changes
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2021-04-17, 20:30 | Link #70 | |
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It's all in the lesson: they were interned first for fear of sabotage (which is partially inspired to the historical internment of Japanese in the USA during WW2) and when the situation degenerated in a machine war that threatened humanity they were used as slaves to build fortifications and as soldiers, essentially using their families in the camps as hostages. It was easier to say that the army was massacred because there were traitors instead of admitting that Giad was militarily superior, despite being a barbaric totalitarian empire instead of the refined democracy established by the Alba. Then there is the hate factor: the Republic lost an entire generation during the conflict and the colorata are see as the relatives of those who created the robotic monsters that slaughtered their parents. The system in place is what happens when an world ending scenario became a relatively stable dystopia. Last edited by Lambdalith; 2021-04-17 at 23:02. |
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2021-04-17, 21:57 | Link #71 | ||
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I was a little worried but the animation and pacing seem to be on point. Hope they keep it up!
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2021-04-17, 22:28 | Link #72 |
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I think they probably appreciate the novelty of the fact that she's a Handler that seems to actually care about her job, can actually do said job, and isn't dismissive of the Eighty-Six to the point where she's regularly contacting with and trying to engage with them. Although the latter is probably something they have to really take at face-value given what they've experienced from Albans at this point.
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2021-04-17, 23:27 | Link #73 | |
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The segue from Lena asking about the future to the next episode's title is great. Lena is still underestimating what kind of mentality the soldiers have if she can ask that; their priority probably has been just to survive this fight, that in the first place, they didn't choose to be in. "Become Republic citizens again" also sound way too optimistic - surprised no one called her out on that right away. In terms of setting, so far the Legion still feels too much like a pure plot device. And with the focus being on the 86s and the Alba, I'm not optimistic this feeling will change. If the setting had been, or if there's a revelation in the future, that the Legions are actually also manned - that would be interesting to explore. (PS LN readers I'm not asking for a spoiler, I'm just speculating )
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2021-04-17, 23:33 | Link #74 | |
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2021-04-17, 23:43 | Link #76 |
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Still feels like set-up but then they are still covering a lot of details, and I am interested (I'll probably go read the LN after this).
Lena certainly stands out with how different she is from everyone. It looks like she's the only Alba to care, not just about the 86 but the war effort at all. But when officially its just "unmanned" machines fighting against each other, and the war is supposed to end in two years anyway, most people wouldn't care. Not to mention she can get away with it more than others who might try to speak out. Lena means well but I can see how that would grate on the 86 as well. Not so much the paperwork but they know how they're viewed back in the capital. No one before her took this war seriously, and they know its not like she can actually do anything about it either, despite her good intentions. Right now they're still at the adjusting to each other phase (or rather "putting up with her"), hopefully next episode will move beyond that. |
2021-04-17, 23:52 | Link #77 |
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Can't say much, but even there Eighty Six put a very particular spin to things. Anyway the Republic speculated that Legion system was defective and ended up recognizing everything non Legion as a foe. They also speculate that it was too geared toward tactical AI with poor strategic capabilities without human commanders. This is also their explanation on how they are still alive with Legion just conducting hit and run attacks. As you see they just retreat when the damage sustained exceed the tactical gain. The problem is...well...let's just say the Republic tends to be wrong on a lot of things.
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2021-04-18, 02:08 | Link #78 |
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With regards to the media, it's pure propaganda for domestic consumption. As with Lena, she is trying to hammer home the point that the 86 are humans. It's more telling if you look at the reactions of the students. Absolutely nobody was surprised by the fact that the 86 are piloting the Juggernauts and frankly nobody cared.
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