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That means all of Gund-Arms Inc. are technically witches, Miorine included. |
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That's when both parties have equal power, which is what Shaddiq wants to achieve by diverting the Beneric group's assets to Earth. But during Delling's rule this wasn't the case. He hogged the power and profit, and Earth became a hellhole of poverty. We've seen Earth's current condition, so this is a fact. It's irrefutable proof that Delling didn't do anything to reach the so-called goal of resolving conflicts. To begin with, the reason the conflict between Earth and Space exists is because Space exploits Earth, and this didn't stop when Delling was in power. If anything, it increased, since Earth lost its only means of deterrence when the Gundam project was shutdown, so the Space corporations could do anything they wanted on Earth after that. Rajan claims Delling wanted to resolve the conflict but his actions say otherwise. The gap of wealth between Earthians and Spacians became wider than ever and the oppression on Earthians kept escalating. The situation has become so dire that Earth is basically a time bomb waiting to blow up on everyone's faces. Everything Delling did made things worse.
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2023-05-06, 19:55 | Link #1147 |
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He has been in power for years. If he wanted to do something to stop the hostilities, he had plenty of chances. He could have gone for something similar to what Shaddiq is planing, for instance. But he didn't do anything. Where are those good intentions Rajan is talking about? We haven't seen that anywhere. In fact, Shaddiq stated the current business scheme imposed by the Space corporations is what turned Earth into a shithole, and Delling is the primary responsible for that. Good intentions my foot. He only cares about profits.
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I just think from his personal experience and profession that he only knows how to really operate one way and couldn't put himself into the perspective of other people, so he couldn't really resolve anything even if that was his intention and the issues kept perpetuating. Maybe that's part of why he was determined to make sure Quiet Zero happened.
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Long story short, what the series actually shows of Delling doesn't support the interpretation that he had good intentions. Of course, I'm not gonna tell you what to believe. That's up to you. I'm just saying that interpretation is inconsistent with what we're shown, that's all.
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Miorine's intentions are good ones, but she is truly terrible at emotional awareness.
I had hoped she learned from the last time she did something like this to Suletta at the end of last season, but I guess not. Spoiler for eps 17 conclusion:
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2023-05-07, 05:55 | Link #1154 |
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Episode 17
Fantastic episode. Guel finally gets his comeback that the deserves so much after the show has put him through such hell. Loving his character arc now! Next episode is titled "Our Empty Selves". I'm extremely afraid that Miorine's plan to free Suletta is going to be cruelly coopted by Prospera. At best, I think we get a depressing episode with Suletta trying to figure out her own worth. But, what if Suletta spends all next episode contemplating her meaningless, empty self only to be offered a purpose by her mother in being filled by her sister.
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Miorine totally fell for Prospera's scheme. What an idiot. Now Prospera has everything she needs to put Quiet Zero in motion, and the only one who had the power to stop her is emotionally destroyed. Good job, Miorine.
Miorine had good intentions. But hell is paved with good intentions.
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The title for next episode is just a fancy way of saying "Suletta will be super depressed"...but we have to wait two weeks to see it.
Miorine is an idiot. She could have achieved the exact same results by asking Suletta to ask for Jertuk support instead of taking all of Suletta's precious things away and totally destroying her in the process. Nika and Suletta needs to be reunited ASAP. Thankfully, Guel likes Suletta and he's the second most honest character in the show and he will probably not stand for a sad Suletta. Also, with the Nika/Norea/El5n scene, I'm now thinking Suletta next ride might be the Ur. Prospera's helmet allows her to see into the data storm it seems like. |
2023-05-07, 07:00 | Link #1158 |
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Miorine never learns. This is not the first time she acted this way. She thinks she knows better and looks down on everyone else. I don't think she does it deliberately but it's her main character flaw all the same.
I bet she doesn't even realize she was manipulating Suletta just like Prospera did. So much for good intentions.
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I really hate plot development like these where one party betrays and distances themselves from the one they love because they believe they'll be happier that way. If Miorine'd think for five seconds she'd know Suletta would never be happy without her and Aerial. They even had Miorine listen in on Guel and Suletta's conversation where Suletta made it clear she loves Miorine and yet she still pulled that crap instead of, you know, trying to communicate properly with her. Suletta even apologized for Miorine and realized what she said to her last week was weird, that was a step in the right direction.
That said, I'm very interested in what will happen to Suletta now. She'll no doubt be depressed for at least one episode, but she has to be brought back into the plot somehow. I don't think Prospera will pull her back in, she's outlived her usefulness to her. Odds are she'll be manipulated by someone else (likely Shaddiq) and forced to pilot a Gundam that will actually put her life at risk.
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