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Or perhaps it's that Kadokawa's producer Ito had no reason to push for it to have been on notaminA since they've rarely participated in it (Library Wars is the only one that comes to mind). Considering that KyoAni has continued to work with Kadokawa's and TBS/Pony Canyon's producers, they've had no reason to work with Fuji TV's producers since they have been able to obtain funding/projects from other sources. It's all about the production committees.
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I think KyoAni really excells when they are trying to actually tell a story instead of parading moe high-school girls at us, which is why I would be happy with anything that has a mixed female/male cast and that is trying to tell a good story.
I guess what I'm saying is that I want an anime original. Which is also what I think we are gonna get from them. I've pretty much given up hope on FMP anyway. Last edited by leokiko; 2013-04-24 at 00:05. |
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So yea, I'm still betting on an original anime. Yamato is legendary, it wasn't that much of a surprise when it came back. FMP didn't sell well nor it was extremely popular. |
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Sorry RRR, but I'm all for the anime original camp over any existing franchise. And then any new adaptations (though hoping not LNs since we are saturated by them). Making sequels just screams milking for me a large portion of the time. Unless if you're called Tamako Market, then you might as well be called K-on Season 3.
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So just a month ago you're writing "KyoAni should stick to adaptations", and now you're saying "KyoAni should do anime originals"? What exactly changed your mind so completely on this?
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Now imagine if I were to tell you this: "HBO's already announced a new season of Game of Thrones?Man,that just screams milking,they should do something new instead,and anyway,there's always the novels for the fan of the show that want to know the rest" Now I think you know how Triple_R feels when you tell him that about Harushi
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Well, there's two things here.
I can get leokiko's position - "I didn't like Haruhi, so I don't want more of it." Fine. That makes sense. I disagree, of course, but if I didn't like something, I wouldn't want more of it either. But I always had the impression that Haruhi was one of KyoAni's better works in Pocari Sweat's opinion. And given that Pocari Sweat wasn't a huge fan of Tamako Market or Munto, I just don't get his position here. So that's one thing. There's also... Quote:
This particularly annoys me given what's commonplace for other prominent anime properties that had some commercial success. Right now, Ore no Imouto and the Raildex series are getting sequels (yet another sequel in Raildex's case). And many anime shows less commercially successful than Haruhi have had four freakin' seasons. Four! It shouldn't be hard for people to see why Haruhi anime fans would be frustrated.
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If they decide to produce an adaptation he can join the chorus and proclaim "What's wrong with those folks at Kyoani? Don't they have a single creative person on staff?" And God forbid they produce a sequel to an already existing work. Then were gonna hear something like, "Man KyoAni is the most commercial studio in the entire industry. Look at those sellouts milking another franchise with a sequel." A very typical "damned if they do, damned if they don't" kind of setup. And a setup that works quite well against KyoAni considering that they are a studio that has so many differing expectations placed upon them, if the discussions in this thread are anything to go by. Of course there could be some other reasonable explanation for these blatantly contradicting viewpoints, but I doubt it. Thankfully, KyoAni's new project is being revealed in only a few days. At least then we can all start bashing KyoAni for the decision they are actually making rather than the ones we think they might make. |
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Consider the following: 1. Since the K-On! movie, KyoAni has not done any sequels. None. Since then, they have done Hyouka, Chuunibyou, Tamako Market, and will be starting a new LN adaptation later this year (I admittedly forget the name of it off-hand). 2. KyoAni could have had Little Busters if they wanted it. Instead, they let JC Staff have it. KyoAni effectively severed a very mutually beneficial relationship with Key. 3. This is the 10th anniversary of Haruhi. If KyoAni still held the property in high regard, I would think they'd want to do something to celebrate that 10th anniversary. But Haruhi doesn't even seem to be on the radar screen for KyoAni. So KyoAni is clearly breaking from its traditional approach (all-adaptation, plenty of sequels/spin-offs, building up a few key brand properties) to adopt a new approach (some anime original work, focus on doing many new IPs, trying to 'grow the brand' outwards rather than build up a few key properties). It's a significant philosophical change in approach. And it's one that leaves me highly skeptical of ever seeing another Haruhi anime. To be fair, I can even understand why KyoAni is taking this new approach. Perhaps they felt they had too many eggs in too few baskets. Perhaps they didn't want to become defined by older works. And there's certainly benefits to producing successful anime originals. But as a big Haruhi fan, it's not what I'd most like to see, of course.
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Speaking as someone who finds Haruhi arguably the most overrated anime ever and could care less if they ever make more, I have to agree that throwing all sequels under a blanket "milking" charge is quite silly. If there's source material to be adapted, it certainly isn't milking. With an original project, I think it depends on the circumstances.
totoum used the GoT example. I'll use another - what if I.G. said they were going to adapt the second book of the Moribito novel series? Would that be milking?
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