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Where did you get it - i don't remember such thing in any source. Also because Cradle activated by Saints genetic code she should have just ordered it to drop on sun and not sacrifice herself.
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2010-03-07, 16:15 | Link #1922 |
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Okay, thanks a lot guys, you helped me with my project.
Going out of the theme a bit, I have another question. Is it posible for a mage to control 2 or more diferent devices at the same time?
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2010-03-07, 16:23 | Link #1923 | |
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Hayate 'control' Rein, and always has her own Storage Device. Btw, Rein also has her own Storage Device. However, having more than one of the same type ofdevice should be counterproductive. |
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2010-03-07, 16:26 | Link #1924 | |
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I doubt a mage has reason to use more than one Intelligent Device, but an Intelligent and another type has precedent, at least in StrikerS.
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2010-03-07, 16:53 | Link #1925 |
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Hayate uses two as well. Three, if you count Rein.
On Belka... if I recall, the death of Olivie and the disappearance of the Cradle had a rather large timespan in between. Also, Olivie's death was to re-unite Belka and stop the war (hence the re-unification war), not to destroy the Cradle. |
2010-03-07, 16:59 | Link #1926 |
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From what I understand, Subaru has her half of the Revolver Knuckle 'synchronized' with Mach Calibur, whatever the hell that means in StrikerS. What it does happen to allow, though, is for Mach Calibur to use the Revolver Knuckle like Subaru can.
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Here's a link that helps explain a few things: http://nanoha.wikia.com/wiki/Chronology |
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Wiki's are edited by fans like you and me, and so can just as easily contain the same mistakes you and me make when debating this, especially when talking about grey area subjects like this. Between this and an official source, which is the more reliable one? Not to mention wikis are build using booklets like this. If the wiki conflicts with the booklet, it's obvious which of the two needs to be edited. Quote:
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2010-03-07, 18:03 | Link #1930 |
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Had a big reply typed up, but just gonna say this much: A lot of my conclusions are drawn from the Japanese Wiki, of which the Nanoha Wikia is based. Occam's Razor fills in gaps for me, as far as the likliest suggestions and outcomes.
If you feel you have information that contradicts, feel free to contribute to the wikia; it's the only way it's going to get better. Although, it does feel better to sit back and smugly say, "Wrong, heheheh" without bothering to contribute to make better. Someone had a question, and I answered it to the best of my ability, based on the work of others who combed through the Japanese wiki to help make the Nanoha wikia. If you have a better idea of history, feel free to suggest it. |
2010-03-07, 18:11 | Link #1931 |
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That's the big problem: We don't. There are too many empty gaps and grey areas in the Belkan history that still need to be answered.
However, this thread is for facts, not theories. Which is why most people confronted you about your theories, because we thought they were facts and were wondering what we'd missed. |
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2010-03-07, 18:35 | Link #1934 | |
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There is no Reason one *couldn't* use two devices, except that you'd have to multi-task your "connection" with both, and that it would be simpler just to have a main device with a secondary one under control of the main one. |
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I see nothing that disproves the possibility though. |
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EDIT So, it is possible. Thanks that's what I wanted to know
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But as I said, if you feel the wikia is just guessing, then delete things and give your reasoning. Because a lot of that information was taken from sources like Japanese magazines and such, and thus can't really be put up as a linked source. You can see with that one link, that there are Japanese words for things like the Warring Ages, because the source was in Japanese. This is the best we've got at the moment. You're welcome to ignore it, but I feel it fills in a LOT of gaps and makes sense in the overall scheme of things. I will bet that Vivid ultimately will show that, too, because it's already showed some things that were in the wikia before Vivid confirmed it. Occam's Razor means a lot of things do make sense, too. But you're also faced with the prospect that not everything is going to line up nicely. Case in point: Schach says Vivio's DNA comes from 300 years ago. Einhart says Olive lived 100 years ago. Figure that out, heh. Edit: Gonna add this bit from a google translate of the Japanese wiki: Prehistoric - during war - Invaded neighboring countries as well as using otherworldly technology, superior weapons development, expand their territory. Its technology is the technology leakage was from Al Hazard. Mid-war period (about 1000 years ago of this story): Significant advances in artificial life research, a number of "king" of their own to strengthen our body, destined to map it to posterity. The war (a few hundred years ago of this story) : Disappear by the end of the war a substantial ancient Belka Belka, Marek Belka land Menu land and who will even after hundreds of years due to pollution. Shall be confirmed by a runaway or not the imposition of any weapons of mass. Other countries seeking to come back and won The King Seong houses scattered around the world held by a cradle, Belka uniform measure. (Unification War King Seong) Cradle is lost during the war, King Seong lose the house. Country surviving occupant had ruled the world, to stop claiming to be orthodox Belka. During this time, almost to extinction and armed ancient Belka-style magic. Current: King Seong and his family and faith for an end to the war, King Seong church is established. Organization established under the slogan of peace and peace-dimensional interaction with the world of weapons of mass disconnection Middochiruda dangerous, after which time and space Administration. King Seong church organizations lent strength to the establishment of peace is part of Middochiruda "Belka autonomous" to secure the country as a. It's kind of hard to make things out, but one thing is clear: The reunification war was a few hundred years ago, and the cradle was lost during this time, as well as the fall of the Saint Kaisers. The TSAB was founded only 150 years ago, so the war ended long before the founding of the TSAB. This falls in line with what Shach said about Vivio's DNA being from 300 years ago. |
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2010-03-07, 19:27 | Link #1939 |
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Edited my post above to show part of the sources, so you don't have to take my word for it, if you want to do your own translation. There's a lot of clues laying about that people have managed to piece things together; they aren't outright said, but it's pretty clear about a lot of things that happened, and in what order that happened in. The Nanoha wikia information shows the results.
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