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1. Long term wars drain a country's economy and saps the morale of the population. 2. Destruction of infrastructure. 3. Loss of manpower through military and civilian casualties. Orb wasn't really at war for very long; both wars put together would probably only come up to a total of one year at war. It suffered significant infrastructural losses in the first war, but insignificant losses in the second. And the number of casualties suffered was relatively low throughout. Orb was in excellent infrastructural and economic shape at the beginning of both wars, so it wouldn't have been that hard to recover from them. If you want a real world example, the U.S. has been at war since 2002, but there are very little signs of it suffering from it. Quote:
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Because you said it only did enough damage to shake the pilot, but it managed to damage the gundam directly. It happened in the second fight between Char and Amuro.
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My aside was just to observe that most current shows are still technically hand-drawn. It's not an argument of any sort, so there's no point in trying to refute it. Quote:
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No, we're not all suddenly poor, but you better believe we've had happier days.
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As the saying goes, "the American military went to war; the American people went to the mall".
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In any case, I was commenting on how a nuclear weapon is vastly more effective in the strategic sense. Basically, an enemy equipped with nuclear weapons has to be dealt with completely differently than one that doesn't have them.
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As a point of order, it's important to note that opinions aren't necessarily equally valid. Quote:
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If you want to talk about characters being "immature and retarded", then the poster boy for that label is the one who didn't feel that he was being appreciated enough, so he pouted by taking off with his Gundam. If any later character is accused of being "immature and retarded", then it's clear that they're just influenced by the original ! Quote:
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Eh, not exactly true, if my memory serves. I distinctly remember a Shin/Destiny vs. Cagalli/Akatsuki battle, where Destiny basically butchered Akatsuki with its beam boomerangs, and would have shred it to ribbons had not S Freedom appeared...and a Hero Unit the Destiny may have been, but unless there's something special about the specs of Destiny's beam boomerangs that I don't know about, then they're basically aerodynamic versions of the basic beam blade/tomahawk of the Windams/ZAKUs...which therefore means that a basic beam blade/tomahawk should be able to wound Akatsuki as effectively as Destiny's boomies did.
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In order for Akatsuki's armor to function, it has to exploit a particular property of beams. Most likely, this is the same property that allowed Shinn to reflect a beam shot off his shield. Beam sabers don't display any of the properties that the beam shots have, so they probably work off a completely different principle. Since the armor no longer has that particular properly to exploit, it can't function (it's also unlikely to work against kinetic attacks for the same reason).
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Moreover, I'd argue that while there are anti-war messages in the older Gundam shows, there's also a certain amount of romance associated with it as well. As a result, war gets glorified by association. Quote:
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I see, I see....
Another thing I've never really figured out is the point behind the anti-ship swords employed by Sword Strike, Sword Impulse, and Destiny. I mean, throughout GS, we've seen plenty of examples of Ginns cutting up EA ships with their basic swords, and in GSD, we've seen Legend cut through Destroys with a basic beam sword, and we all remember Strike Freedom doing a number on Messiah with his oversized, but still basic, METEOR beam swords. If basic beam swords are good enough for the job, what's the point of these anti-ship swords? The way I see it, they're only a weak spot, such as Kira demonstrated many times by disarming Shin's Destiny that way at least twice, and we all know how S Freedom grabbed Destiny's anti-ship sword with its bare hands alone, right? |
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And you're citing some non-standard examples for basic beam saber use. Strike Freedom is not the kind of mech you'd logically expect to see in the battlefield, and the Destiny was never created to fight against such a machine. The Meteor was created with slicing large things in mind, so it's more than a "basic" beam saber. And of course, Kira's skills allowed him to perform his neat disarming tricks against Destiny. But then again, not everyone in the battlefield has Kira's 1337ness (would you expect the run-of-the-mill pilot to be able to perform a sword grab against Destiny? I think not). Destiny's Anti-Ship sword seemed useless against the other Top-Tier MS because it was not designed to do so, something that was more of Shinn's fault than Destiny's design (he did have dueling beam saberangs for the occasion, he just never used them). Against the targets against which they were designed against, like slow moving mobile armors like Destroys or ships, the Anti-Ship sword does its job does fine.
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