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2008-02-21, 00:26 | Link #20263 | ||||||||||||||||||||
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I think that was the idea behind her creation. She sure hits hard from the looks of the spell list. I bet a tsukomi from her would hurt like hell, and she seem to be the kind to fit that type of role.
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Power rangers never really took a hold of my interest, all because of the lame English voice acting. If there's ever one gripe I have, its the American voice actors treating anime and sentai as "kiddy stuff", and thus we have anime dubs that are lame and seem to cater to kids. Back on topic though, bring on Julie's profile! I'm burning with curiosity! Quote:
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Can't say I envy your position, though at times I do. Its nice to have someone like that who shares your interest. Was it camouflaged? I recognize the girl the moment I glanced at the pictuer. Nah...Like I said, its probably just some nosebleed-inducing stuff. Harmless really. *runs* Must have all the Aces do Cast Off! *runs as well* Not enough. Why not? Its just Aurion being Aurion, and besides we couldn't see with the soft squishy assets blocking his sight. Nothing harmful of course! *runs from Aaron* What's with that grin? *curiosity running on hyperdrive mode* It was supposed to be lame by Tomoya and Kyou's standard. But I seriously lol'ed. Well actually, I sad there stunned for like 2 seconds, replayed the part, sat there stunned again, replayed it again, and finally burst out laughing like hell. Quote:
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2008-02-21, 00:26 | Link #20264 | ||||
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Yeah, but just think of what'll happen when next Saturday arrives ()
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Yup *Big innocent smile* () Once an Outer Cadian, always an Outer Cadian I'll present them first in a story with Cass and then work on their profiles to introduce them officially You know the answer I'm sick, swamped with work and I've lightened up considerably since I was last here . Let me play around too Quote:
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Who? Where? *looks around* EDIT: @Thread: Oyasuminasai ~ Gotta get up early to continue working and it's almost 1 AM here
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2008-02-21, 00:27 | Link #20265 |
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And here we were expecting more EPIC Kha/Anita action ... ... no, it's not what it sounds like *runs FAAAAAAAAAAASSSSTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER* If it wasn't for the fact that this is the OC thread dealing with Nanoha-related matters, where people would rather disable than kill, this quote would've sent me laughing my ass off.
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2008-02-21, 00:49 | Link #20266 | ||||||||
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And GAR Heart is good. Quote:
... Who is Midchilda Ground Force Ace Patrick's Jesse? *runs* Quote:
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Then again, if you ask what do Cleric-Knights do for a living... EDIT - DARCO sayz: Taking orders on Kha stabbing if you have a headache after each of his post.
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2008-02-21, 00:53 | Link #20267 | ||
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Then again there must be a reason why conventional weapons cannot match a mage and I'm leaning towards their barrier jackets and shields. Btw where do you suggest I should ask this in? In the tech and magic thread? Quote:
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2008-02-21, 00:59 | Link #20270 | |
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Plain GAR is good
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Well it's not GAR Heart... just RH following the 3 Laws. 1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. 2. A robot must obey orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. 3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law. RH followed the First Law to a T.
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2008-02-21, 01:12 | Link #20272 | |||
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2008-02-21, 01:48 | Link #20273 | |||
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As for modifying it to use cartridges as the direct power source... you can do that with a duplicate of Raging Heart to fire a divine buster. If you're careless enough to let someone accquire that kind of weapon, to modify that weapon, so they could GIVE it to 'a child' that shouldn't have it, you would have to be a pisspoor excuse of a person and should never have been in charge of those weapons in the first place. A weapon is a weapon, whether it is easy or hard to use. In fact, weapons SHOULD be easy to use. It falls to the responsibility of the person to ensure that the weapon is not used wrecklessly, and to keep it out of the hands of those who are unable to understand it's lethality. Quote:
1: Core of the Sun (And fusion reactors) 2: Solar Flares 3: Lightning Bolts (Or rather, the immediate surrounding air.) 4: Thunderstorm Globes Each succedding example is an example of a significant order of magnitude energy drop. Now, in some cases, you'd be correct in your assumption on plasma, but not all cases. For one, plasma does not 'ignite'. Ignition is a chemical reaction and a burn process. Plasma is, again, a state of matter. Now, plasma consists of energized ions. In the case of the system I'm indicating, we've created an artificial plasma by taking normal air, and forcefully stripping the electrons, trapping the leftover ion soup, and heating it. Since plasma's state is more energetic than that of gas, it expands like gas, only faster. Producing a little more force. The plus side of using this instead of just gas heating, is that you can contain it in a negetive magnetic bottle. (Efficiency in magic again.) The reason is because the ions are positively charged. By recycling what you're using, you save on mana energy several times over the firing cycle. Now, when you release the plasma from its containment, it expands and pushes our packet of magically spaced electrons out of the barrel in the same simple way a gun fires a bullet. Giving you the same, if not more, accelleration due to two things. 1: The more rapid expansion of plasma 2: The non-existent mass being fired from the barrel. Once fired, the plasma, being only marginally higher temperature than a conventional powder gas, immediately starts to recover its natural state, collecting electrons and returning to gas form as it equalizes with air temperature. If I were to be extremely anal about how I'm using the mechanics, it would be something I would call a 'forced plasma' rather than a fully natural plasma. Here's more on plasma. I may or may not have used some propperties incorrectly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_%28physics%29 Now, one last thing, since we're using air, which is already in the gas state, going up to a level of plasma is easier. Quote:
Now, to answer the question. If I know I have been fired upon, and have ten seconds to get out of the way of the shot. I already know a few things, even if I don't know where it's coming from. 1: At that extreme range, my mid torso is probably the target. (Center Mass) 2: It isn't going to be coming from the direction of any obstructions. 3: It is probably not comng from directly above, or below. Easiest solution? Walk two steps forward, one step to the side, and drop flat on the ground. Then as soon as you can, find cover. If we use simply eight points on a compass as directions of plausable travel, you have a two in eight chance of picking a direction to travel that will still get you killed. It's a far greater chance (by an order of magnitude) than standing there going "I don't know where it's coming from so I might as well not do anything! Woe is ME!" Which is an eight in eight chance of getting killed. The most important law of combat is this: "KEEP MOVING!" Stationary targets die. Quote:
However, creating a shield takes mana. Size, density, and construction drain the defender. Even if the shot is fully absorbed by the shield. There is a chance that the shield cannot handle the shot, and breaks, and then the followup shot gets a free target. Combat is more than just strength, it's logistics, strategy... energy management. If I can fire a bolt that while unable to hurt say Nanoha, but cracks her shield every time it hits, and I can fire that bolt for a mere tenth of the energy it takes her to erect a new shield... I can, while being an inferior mage, technically match her in an energy battle by making her WASTE her energy. Am I wasting my time with an attack that cannot hurt her? Maybe, it depends. How much energy did she just waste on a barrier that shattered from my shot? What would the psychological effects of shattering her barrier be? What if I keep repeating this action every time she throws one up? What kind of mistakes will she make if/when she starts to panic? Sometimes, when it comes down to well matched skill, it could very well be energy management that decides the fight. Nanoha should be superior to myself in every magic combat rating. I could crack away at her defense barrier over and over again, never hurting her at all while she tries to find me, until I exhaust her, and just as she finds me, discovers she has to go all out and push herself to stop me before I plant my next round right between her eyes. But I'm but a mere C rank mage! Against Nanoha! If I can exhaust her to the point of barely beating me at this level... What if I'm stronger? What if I have allies? What about both? Don't just think power. Think of the whole picture. Quote:
Lethality isn't subjective. Weapons KILL. Period. It is the nature of Nanoha universe physical defenses that changes this into 'weapons knock the holy FORK out of you." It is this upscaled defense that justifies the use of lethal force, just to achieve a knockout. Otherwise Nanoha would be dead. Dead in episode two of the first season from trampling injuries, goring, and broken neck from being rammed by a beast, shredded by its horns, and flung backwards down shrine steps. |
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You know, I think you just isolated the main reason why I don't like a lot of what you've proposed.
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I'm thinking that you need to seriously tweak the VUD capabilities to at least allow the skillsets of the people they infect to continue as per normal. The farmer still grows the food, the delivery truck driver still transports the goods, the cooks still manage to feed everyone. It might be interesting to see if the infection results in a hive mind, but that may be pushing the VUDs too far. Quote:
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Infection happens when a virus (Megabyte, Kilobyte, Hexadecimal, so on and so forth) touches something in order to consciously infect it. Most viruses infect things one at a time, or at least have their infection spread relatively slowly; still fast enough that very quick reaction times are necessary to escape, but you can visibly see the spread. Daemon, introduced in Season 4 (but foreshadowed in Season 3), can infect entire systems (the equivalent of cities) at a time. This infection takes the form of a sort of religious ecstasy (played to the hilt with a scene where a newly-infected bursts into gospel singing), but the people who got infected have their own skills, and for the most part, their own personalities. They just believe, deep to their core, that their entire purpose in life is to serve Daemon. Think of someone who's portrayed as "devoutly religious", and that's about what you get. (This means that the cynical sorts do get a personality rewrite to become more happy. The effect is kind of creepy.) Daemon does manage to infect every system in the world, but Hexadecimal (another virus, on the side of the good guys) sacrifices herself to override the infection with her own. Then Hex releases everyone and disappears, leaving them free of all infections (at least for the moment). Which was what I was trying not to think about while reading about the VUDs; whether someone on the side of the Good Guys would develop a counter-VUD, as a sort of antibody, to solve the whole mess. Now I need to go check my PM inbox. Maybe my comments here have already been answered therein. |
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2008-02-21, 02:38 | Link #20276 | |
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EDIT: Seriously though... I like it around here. I act like the out of control weapons designer, and everyone else acts like the Accountants and Legal attournies keeping my bacon out of hot water. What should I work on tonight? More fight? Cooper's profile? Another piece of equipment? |
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2008-02-21, 03:40 | Link #20278 |
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I'll be borrowing Lowe's style of profiling with the Cleric-Knights. Thanks again!
CLERIC-KNIGHTS Justicar Foy Rokker Gosh I can't find his portrait... Spoiler for Justicar Foy Rokker:
Looking for more pictures to patch this file up. Its in pieces. Comments & Criticisms even flames welcome! Ideas too, because I'm a little brain-jammed and I might have forgotten something.
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Last night, I was thinking about your idea and thought of something. If things can't go the way you originally intended for this idea, you have enough elements to make a Resident Evil kind of story. It's Nadleeh not Nadleen. Last edited by Jimmy C; 2008-02-21 at 03:59. |
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To be fair, it's not Crash that's hax, it's his equipment.
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*Opens mouth* *closes it* ... *Facepalms* My head just exploded. Thank you Kha.
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