2008-03-14, 03:04 | Link #1021 |
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Well i've watched 9 eps of this anime and i still don't see any reason that Hayami would disassociate herself from her family.
Sure her family was cruel to the villagers, but needless to say I feel they were really nice to Hayami herself, compared to say Hotarou's grandfather. I don't see why Hayami would choose to stay in this village and be abused by them rather then going with her parents who loves her, albeit they weren't nice to the villagers. People have all been saying that Hayami's parents aren't dead and that she chose not to live with them. It still doesn't make logical sense that she would choose not to go with her parents...
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2008-03-14, 03:17 | Link #1022 |
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I'll say there's something we don't know here...something that greatly affects the plot, because there no possible reason for Hayami to stay. If there's not, then well, that's one of the major flaws (in my opinion) of this series, the lack of character background.
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2008-03-14, 07:19 | Link #1023 | |
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2008-03-15, 15:09 | Link #1028 | |
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Wow....this episode was so intense!
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If that wasn't it, do share! I'm not the most perceptive sometimes....
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2008-03-15, 19:55 | Link #1033 |
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Holy shit.
Takuma's gone completely off the deep end. I knew that he had some serious issues to work through regarding his mother's death, but I had no idea they were this severe. This, combined with the plot twist about his sight, casts the entire rest of the show in a different light. I'm going to have to watch this series again at some point and pay careful attention to his actions and the responses of others. And Hayami...well, she was downright suicidal throughout the first half of this episode, which I think explains why she goaded the goon and Takuma into attacking her. She doesn't want to live anymore anyway, and what better way to end her life than in a way that will ease another's suffering? Of course, this is a very twisted way of thinking, but it fits in line perfectly with Hayami's intense, recurring guilt regarding the past actions of her family. I'm glad to see that my prediction of Yui appearing to save Hayami from the goons was correct. Her character has grown very nicely since the start of the series, and she demonstrates that the villagers - most of them, at least - should be able to overcome their hatred for Hayami if they can just recognize the inherent humanity within her. Hopefully she and Hamaji will get a chance to help out in the final episode. They did overhear the elder coercing Hayami out of the town, afterall. Then again, what can help out with Takuma's ravaged mind? I've really got no idea, but this series hasn't let me down with anything else, so I am expecting something very, very good. I want episode twelve now. |
2008-03-15, 21:11 | Link #1036 |
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Well off course those anime weren't... If they were then i'm sure the writers of h20 would sue those shows for plagiarising their story.
Rationality and logic are all relative especially when it comes to movies, series or anime. As long as the writer establishes a environment that's self sustainable and doesn't contradict itself, then you really can't ask for anything more. Like no one ever said, "hey robot assassins that go back into the past to kill a person doesn't exist" in the Terminator movie, why? Because it's been established that in that scenerio they do exist. In terms of h20, it was established quite early on that Spoiler for spoiler:
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2008-03-15, 22:28 | Link #1038 |
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This was fairly common throughout the late 19th century in the United States against African Americans, as well as during World War II against Japanese Americans within America. Dumb attitude to hold in real life at this time? Sure. Dumb attitude to hold in real life back then? People of that era would argue otherwise. Dumb in the story? Absolutely not. Why can't a common real life scenario be used in a story?
The Communist Revolution in Russia. Sound familiar? Yes you can. Ever heard of a psychosomatic disorder? Another scenario similar to this is when, in Shion no Ou, Shion (the protagonist shougi player) can't speak at all after having witnessed the murder of her parents and being told by the murderer not to speak. It's totally possible for emotional trauma to disable a particular function, and if you need the science behind it, here it is: Emotions operate mostly in the subconscious mind. You can't actively decide to be sad or happy without self-hypnosis (the closest thing you could do is to think of a happy, sad, angry memory and let your emotions kick in from there). Self-hypnosis, however, isn't just a matter of listening to a tape repeating certain things while you're falling asleep. Severe emotional trauma can also trigger a state where the subconscious mind is able to accept direct external or internal manipulation (basically what a hypnotic state is). It's analogous to operating from root within *nix; everything is open to change. Other things are also deeply rooted within subconscious processes, such as your five senses, movement, speech, memory associations, etc. Now, if a person suffers from deep emotional trauma and decides that he/she doesn't want to have to see such an event ever again, just that thought could make the person go blind, and that's probably what happened in Takuma's case. Sorry for picking your argument apart like this. Some of the points you make are totally valid in the context of modern western civilization, but things are much different in other parts of the world. |
2008-03-15, 23:36 | Link #1039 |
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I just wanted to comment on this part. It's true that things are different all over the world, but we're talking about modern Japan here, not some 3rd world nation. They have a modern legal system that frowns upon things like arson, assault, and murder. Even the most brain dead adult would have to realize that the "but she's a cockroach" defense isn't going to cut it if the long arm of the law comes knocking.
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