2008-05-06, 01:13 | Link #704 |
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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I'd just like to add that I think Gendo Ikari was a serious D-Bag and so too were the the old SEELE men. I probably didnt have to point that out but I just felt like saying it...
Its a shame Shinji was only 14, because if he were a couple of years older and with all those rising testosterones...Im pretty sure he would have swung at his old man in no time. Gendo deserves it. I hated when Shinj had to come back under his command...if it wasnt for the world, Shinji would have told him to F' off ages ago! |
2008-05-06, 01:23 | Link #705 | |
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2008-05-06, 06:48 | Link #706 | |
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2008-05-06, 10:16 | Link #708 |
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Objectively, Gendo Ikari was the one character who probably helped save the ENTIRE humanity in the story. His coldness and crass attitude aside, that is. Actually that's one of the major things I dislike about the story. That the more crass you get, the better results you get? I can't agree with that kind of dynamic personally.
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2008-05-06, 10:58 | Link #709 | |
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If we get to the bottom of it, yes, he created the scenario in which Shinji makes the right choice, but I don't believe that was his intention in the first place. He was so fixated upon Yui that I don't even believe he was thinking about it. PS: BTW, I'm one of those people that believe that Shinji didn't necessarily make the "right" choice
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2008-05-06, 11:31 | Link #710 |
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Gendo may not have personally put too much faith in to Shinji, but at least Seele foresaw it. I don't think Gendo is as naive as the way he led Shinji to believe. Also, it strikes me as too convenient that his backup plain in Rei basically was the key to the salvation of mankind. Gendo must have foreseen what was going to happen to a degree even with his infatuation with Yui.
It still doesn't make me like Gendo any more as a person, but I still can't find any other single character who made it more possible than Gendo. Shinji was basically just along for the ride. Ever since episode 1. And as for the whole 'right choice' thing, I don't think there was much of a choice to begin with. Either ends up with humanity progressing in some forms, sacrificing their current forms in a major, cataclysmic way. Though I do think the illusion of choice was there. |
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2008-05-06, 13:18 | Link #713 | |
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2008-05-06, 13:30 | Link #715 | |
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PS: Forgot to add "Hedgehog's Dilemma".
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2008-05-06, 13:55 | Link #718 |
Kuu-chan is hungry
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What more do you want?
AT fields are the barrier between human souls so they can never truly understand each other and will keep them separate. Hedgehog's Dilemma is the idea that humans will consistently hurt each other when they try to get close to each other. However, under the right conditions/approach, they can come together and create something beautiful. Gendo and Shinji just wasn't able to find a way that worked for both of them. |
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