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2008-05-13, 22:48 | Link #1103 | |
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"Nunally and Suzaku was assigned to be governor of the whole Eastern Britania, they wont be appearing in this season. Please enjoy the rest of the show with Zero in Japan" I believe all around the world plane tickets to the city where Sunrise is based would be sold out overnight, along with many requests to bring extra luggages carrying hardwood material |
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2008-05-13, 22:49 | Link #1104 | |
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Consider whether Gandhi would have succeeded if it was Nazi Germany (an extreme example) that controlled India. |
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2008-05-13, 22:50 | Link #1106 | |
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Yeah, in the picture drama, he says "If, on that day, I hadn't killed dad, this many people wouldn't have died." and he both says and shows aplenty of times in the first season how much he hates killing people. Not so much in season 2 though it would seem.. <_<. |
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2008-05-13, 22:51 | Link #1107 | |
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If it was Nazi Germany, Gandhi would still advocate AND practice non-violence all the way to his death, successful or not. |
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2008-05-13, 22:56 | Link #1109 | ||||
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If there's someone to rein him in it's Nunnally now since Euphie's dead. Funny how the britannian princesses have their ways with these warriors.. I wouldn't be surprised near the end of the series it's Nunnally who calms Suzaku and forces him to reconcile with Lelouch or something similar(Big spectulation there). Quote:
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2008-05-13, 22:57 | Link #1110 |
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I'm pretty sure that Nunually volunteered to be governor. I don't think that Suzuku was like "Ah, the previous governor of Japan died to Lelouch, so I'm going to make the one person he can't kill governor and see what happens" Maybe the emperor could think of that, but I doubt it was Suzuku. And if Suzuku becomes Knight of One and Nunually is still governor, then I think Nunually will remain the governor, and all it means is that there is someone higher who would ultimately have the final say. Kind of like, she would become the vice-governor only still keeping the governor title, while Suzuku is just called the Knight of One. I also think that he hates people dying so he is willing to kill people because he feels that more people would die if he didn't. Actually, I think Gandhi once said that while he thinks that non-violence is the best possible solution, that violence was better than simply doing nothing. Or it might have been Martin Luther King Jr. Or someone else. I can't really remember so far back in my previous history classes, but I definately remember a really famous pacifist saying that.
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2008-05-13, 22:58 | Link #1111 | |
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And, when he killed his father, it wasn't like the Britannians were dying. Britannians pretty much easily blitzed through most of Japan. The ones who were dying were his own people. And then he killed his father. It's like you hate all killing, so in order to stop killing, you help killers kill the victim. |
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2008-05-13, 23:01 | Link #1112 | |
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To say that one is immoral or evil for committing such a contradition is to not know the pains such individuals go through. |
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2008-05-13, 23:05 | Link #1114 | |
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It was Suzaku's choice to join the Britainnian miltary. Nobody forced him to.
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2008-05-13, 23:06 | Link #1115 | |
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Opinion1. when he killed his father Suzaku prevented more people dying from war, on both sides. More people would of died had war dragged on. opinion 2 Suzaku killed his father, thus letting Britanians easily crush the remianing Japanese forced. His actions resulted in death of his fellow countrymen!! I duno...both opinions seems right? |
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2008-05-13, 23:08 | Link #1116 | |
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You're supposed to protect the lives of all people. If some terrorist/freedom fighter tries to cause mass murder, whether by bomb, poison gas, landslides, etc, will you just stand by while they do their work? Unlike most people who don't know the pains of having to kill to protect, I've actually had to do skimishes in the DMZ during my Marine service. I'm not one to advocate killing, but when there is someone who is willing to kill your family, your friends, your people on a mass scale, I would pull the trigger, and I have done so. My hands are dirty with blood, but when we consider what could have happened, I try to live with it. That's the dilemna I live with. Fortuately, I'm not in Suzaku's place, where I'm working for an occupying power. However, the overall principles are the same: sometimes you have to kill to prevent more killings. |
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2008-05-13, 23:08 | Link #1117 | ||
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2008-05-13, 23:08 | Link #1118 |
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"Gandhi steadfastly avoided violence towards his opponents. The non-violent activist, while willing to die, was never willing to kill. Gandhi pointed out three possible responses to oppression and injustice. One he described as the coward's way: to accept the wrong or run away from it. The second option was to stand and fight by force of arms. Gandhi said this was better than acceptance or running away. But the third way, he said, was best of all and required the most courage: to stand and fight solely by non-violent means." Found the lines I was looking for. However, when he killed his father, Japenese was dying. If his father survived, there probably wouldn't be any Japenese or at least significantly less since he was advocating resisting until the last Japenese had died. And this is not considering the bloody battleground the country becomes when the E.U. and Chinese Confederation decide to have a little three way war on the island with the Japenese caught in the middle. However, currently there is still a sizable amount of Japenese living, though maybe not in ideal conditions.
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2008-05-13, 23:11 | Link #1119 | |
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But, like I said, I know where your coming from, but it's not what I am trying to say. Someone is trying to kill your family friends and people. You will pull the trigger to stop them you said. I would do the same even though I do not advocate the killing of anyone. But, what if someone is trying to kill your family, friends, and people, and instead of shooting the enemy, you would pull the trigger on your own people??? |
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2008-05-13, 23:12 | Link #1120 | |
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