2008-09-20, 15:11 | Link #10021 | |
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EDIT: I mean, I have some hope since he only disabled Gino, and he seems genuinely sorry for what he did to Kallen (he even kept pictures of her despite being 'enemies,' so he still cared for her on some level). I just hope he still wants to save Nunnally, etc. if at all posible. Lelouch was always focused on ends over means, while Suzaku was always more concerned with the means he used. However, I think they both need to learn that both means and ends need to be taken into consideration.
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2008-09-20, 15:13 | Link #10022 | |
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Yeah, unless he KILLS Nunally or Kallen then I will be disappointed in Suzaku, but he will not do that.. I know it.. and if someone brings the argument "Kallen is in the way, Suzaku must kill her for the sake of world/promise !! " We don't know yet why they are fighting YET It would be horrible, horrible if we were trolled again, and they don't fight
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2008-09-20, 15:15 | Link #10023 | |
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I think they're fine and this conversation proves it, otherwise they'd be dead instead of talking about it if that was the case. And some things shouldn't be explained, I don't particularly mind if they do give some details, but I don't think it wrong if they don't and continue to push forward regardless. Well, I think they've at least got it down that the results need to justify the means now that they've rejected both Schneizel and Charles take on everything. Some means don't produce a result that was worth it in the end, in this case I think they've found something that is worth it now Edit: Meh, if at all possible then sure, I think he'd fine if that was the case, but as Lelouch said they can't afford to give special preference anymore if it jeopardizes the overall objective, I'd be more pissed if they did and in turn screwed Zero Requiem over because of it.
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2008-09-20, 15:48 | Link #10024 | |
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Still, I can't shake the feeling the Lelouch is supposed to die for the Requiem and Suzaku is going along with it because he thinks its justice for Euphie. If this is the case, I can see why Suzaku and Kallen would start fighting. (Still, nothing to prove or disprove it at this point, so I'll just wait and watch.)
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2008-09-20, 15:53 | Link #10025 | |
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I don't know, Lelouch seemed to indicate that Suzaku and he have both forgiven each other based on what Shirley said and Suzaku's own realization that Euphie and Shirley protected Lelouch to the end despite everything. In any case, this is all just speculation so we'll have to wait and see for the time being, as you say. God the waits are just getting more and more painful as we draw to a close... >_>
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2008-09-20, 15:55 | Link #10026 | ||
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Well, there are only two episodes left. Not much time for touching death scenes like Shirley's, so I'm assuming if there are any, there can be only one tops (and only for one of the main four--other people will drop like flies and barely get a, "Damn it, (insert name here)!!!!) Narona: Not that I'm happy about it, but they do seem to give them out to her like Halloween candy don't they.
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2008-09-20, 15:58 | Link #10027 | |
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I just get that feeling from how the scene in the SoA ended with Suzaku turning on Lelouch and saying he is Euphie's murderer and Lelouch still not coming out and saying what happened. Just the fact that the scene was left hanging there makes it feel that the problem hasn't been resolved yet.
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2008-09-20, 16:04 | Link #10028 | |
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Meh, I think they're fine for the time being, I think the comments beforehand counted more in the end, along with their accumulation to that point where they could reconcile with one another. He certainly isn't buddy buddy with him as he was before, but generally I think the promise or the decision Lelouch made as he said back then during that scene was enough in the way of justice, and in this sense I think it was accomplishing all of their dreams. He certainly was surprised at Lelouch's gesture to clear Euphie's name during Turn 22, so I think they're fine for the most part >_>
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2008-09-20, 16:31 | Link #10029 | ||
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Hell spice it up, put Suzaku in there he could be the one to explain ZR to Kallen while Lelouch is 'blah' moving to execute the final phase. Gino and Anya could deal with Suzaku as well. Quote:
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2008-09-20, 16:32 | Link #10030 |
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Alright, I think I've realized something about the show. The fact that it was rushed was actually on purpose.
Now, why would the creators want to do that to their baby? Well, unsatisfied fans (especially, but not limited to, shippers) will feel more need to sate their hunger. This is usually cured with fanfiction, but the writers activate their insidious plot of releasing Sound Episodes and Picture Dramas. They've even promoted them throughout the series! For example, Jeremiah's loyalty to Marianne was only mentioned in a Picture Drama. Some fans may wonder "where did this come from?" and reserach it, once they find the source, they got snared into the bonus material trap. With this method, Sunrise can shamelessly whore Lelouch out and make a profit of it. That's why there will be no romantic resolution, or else whoring Lelouch out wouldn't be as profittable. |
2008-09-20, 16:37 | Link #10031 | |
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The sound episodes already existed all the way back in season one and it's not really too rare for anime series to have that kind of thing, though the current R2 crop is apparently hilariously non-canon this time around (which means they don't complement the main story much, they're just a way to have fun), and so did the picture dramas that have always been in the DVDs since R1. All things being similar on that front, I don't see how that would explain the additional rush, when there are other explanations for it. The romantic resolution is a whole different issue though, and while that could explain why it may be dragged out all the way, I don't think you can narrow down its result (if we even get one) to just this. |
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2008-09-20, 16:58 | Link #10035 |
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They could always leave the ending open. Still I'm sure most people who are aligned one way or another would hope for an ending that supports their feelings. Its same for people who say bad writing this bad writing that. Its all a matter of weather or not you enjoyed the show thats all. If you don't like something just ask yourself hey what can I take away from this. That way it doesn't feel so much as a waste of time rather a learning experience that was also entertaining.
Its a long day today. Only 6:00 pm where I am. This episode will be fun. |
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2008-09-20, 18:55 | Link #10038 |
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Does anyone else think there is going to be a Guren and Albion team up at SOME point in the next episode? The opening seems to indicate such, even though that seems highly unlikely at this point....
(I am not giving the opening much credibility, but it has been shown to shown at times to give some spoilers)
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In about 8 hours, I hope Lelouch and Diethard pull an amazing turnabout right under Schneizel's nose. If my speculations become reality, it'd be awesome to see Schneizel's shocked face.
Seriously, they've shown him over the course of now near 50 eps, and he looks the same in all of his scenes. It'd be nice to see him lose his demeanor! |
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