Bleach 189 Episode Discussion Thread

[waterchan]

About Yamamoto taking a direct stab from Amagai and not flinching -- remember that Amagai's bankai had dissipated against his will, and according to Byakuya, that is an indication that the Shinigami is about to die. It's conceivable that Amagai's stab was pretty weak for a captain.

And if Amagai hadn't committed suicide at the end, he would have died anyway -- from Soul Society's punishment if not from running out of HP.

[^Sakon]

LOL @ the transition, filler ending wasn't too bad, nothing unforeseen really, we all knew amagi would be gone somehow, I really was wondering how they could possibly reconnect with the original Arc from that filler since it was placed in a very inopportune spot. The other filler Arcs generally took place in the lull between arcs, so transition wasn't too hard, gotta admit the bold faced "ok back to your original scheduled program" style was amusing and prolly the best overall.

[mugenTaichou]

I still state that this fillers were better than Bounto arc... I liked the ending

AND FUCK YEAH NELL!!
I loved shinigami golden xD.


Edit: Meh sorry...

But I still wait!

[Liwyn]

......../Sigh

[Captain Yoruichi]

You two might want to edit that so that you don't get in trouble. There's not supposed to be manga spoilers in the anime discussion thread, even if they have spoiler tags.

[MidnightViper88]

At least Amagai wasn't really the bad guy; Just foolishly mistaken...It would've been too cliche if he was just another psychopath hellbent on revenge no matter what...

[Alchemist007]

Originally Posted by Streetor

Soul Society: Farewell, you will never be mentioned again in this anime.

Actually I remember them referring back to the Bounto arc in a non-filler episode. So it's possible
Oh yeah, randomly sad endings ftl. I only feel a bit sad though, a lot of it is patheticness.

[Thewanderer]

Originally Posted by Alchemist007

Actually I remember them referring back to the Bounto arc in a non-filler episode. So it's possible

But the Bount arc is in-continuity, the Amagai arc isn't.

[astrallionheart]

It would be funny (not that having fillers is ever funny) that when the new filler arc starts in 6 months, they'll simply do another teleport and link back to the filler continuity.

[swordfinder]

i just don't get why yamamoto didn't tell amagai the true story in the first place
just slept through the fight and then woke up at the end and remembered the truth
then amagai could have stayed on and help fight in HM but then that would go against the manga. sheeshhh.

[Thewanderer]

Originally Posted by swordfinder

i just don't get why yamamoto didn't tell amagai the true story in the first place
just slept through the fight and then woke up at the end and remembered the truth
then amagai could have stayed on and help fight in HM but then that would go against the manga. sheeshhh.

I mean no hostility here for anyone, but... what part of "alternate continuity" don't everyone get?

Yama-ji saw Ichigo's Vaizard form in the Amagai arc, but in normal continuity, Ichigo was in Hueco Mundo the whole time. Even if Ichigo died in the Amagai arc, it wouldn't effect later episodes. The Amagai arc just takes place in another Bleach universe. That's why breaking the 4th wall at the end there made so much sense.

[Zu Ra]

Originally Posted by swordfinder

i just don't get why yamamoto didn't tell amagai the true story in the first place

I too agree if Yama had opened his mouth instead of going silent mode the fight could have been avoided . Also the silent treatment proved to Amagai he was right and also fueled his fire . IMO purely plot reasons .

I liked Amagai despite his overly flashy WOW inspired zanapakuto . He could have been included in the manga IMO . The suicide was unnecessary I really dont get how it affected his pride. With Chamber 46 out of the picture the fuzzy warm care bear known as Yamaji would have pardoned him ... or max gotten away with a minor punishment .

[MidnightViper88]

Originally Posted by swordfinder

i just don't get why yamamoto didn't tell amagai the true story in the first place

Amagai probably wouldn't have bought Yamamoto's story; He had admitted he was blinded by rage, so even if Yamamoto pulled off "A Few Good Men"-esque "You want the truth?", Amagai probably would've just been pissed off more at Yamamoto's attempt to defend himself...It took a third-party member Like Yoruichi to deliver the unbiased story and reveal the truth...

Besides, Yamamoto looks less like the "I'm sorry, this is what really happened" type and more the "You misguided fool, you will pay for your mistakes!" type...

[swordfinder]

yeah, however amagai's character was impressive and certainly befits a taicho since the beginning of the arc. only the ending could have been written better. still amagai's death is truly a big loss to the series. shinigami salute:

Hadou sanju-san Soukatsui x 3
(Way of Destruction Number 33 Blue Fire Crash Down) x 3

[WONDERMIKE]

wow that was bad

Amagai's bakkouto wasn't activated in the end or what? Ichigo was faster than before and even managed to defeat Amagai without his mask that makes no sense at all.. and Yamamoto seems to run low on blood, this wound was perfectly dry also explains why his brain is in idle mode and therefore simply forgot about Ichigo's mask.. oh well, what a sucky ending, bountos were waaaay better

Harakiri was strange and totally unnecessary to me, it came out of nowhere just because they had to get rid of the character. Imo they could have put him to Rantao and Ipod-Bounto

now I'm soooo looking forward to see some good stuff

edit: in response to rep

Bounto Arc and Amagai Arc are comparable as they share the same writer. Nothing illogical about it.

[astrallionheart]

Noitora sure has a big stick. I wonder how Ichigo will fare next week. I believe this is the first time he's fought a Fatal Fury-style combat round with a 2nd contestant jumping in right after the first is defeated :P

[mugenTaichou]

Originally Posted by WONDERMIKE

edit: in response to rep

Bounto Arc and Amagai Arc are comparable as they share the same writer. Nothing illogical about it.

wow you got the same rep oO

I really don't get it what he/she thought with it <<

Helloooou, from time to time we even discuss logic in bleach, why we couldn't compare those?? oO

[Thewanderer]

Originally Posted by WONDERMIKE

Bounto Arc and Amagai Arc are comparable as they share the same writer. Nothing illogical about it.

Though I'm not sure why you were repped because of that, I'd have to agree. Writers have nothing to do with it. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that judging a fiction on who made it gets in the way of making an unbiased opinion of the fiction. If the anime arcs as they are came directly from Kubo, everyone would have a totally different opinion of them.

Fiction is supposed to be there for people to enjoy, not a reflection of popularity contests.

And yes, this opinion relates directly to my constant defense of "fillers".

[WONDERMIKE]

I don't get it, ppl also compare Stephen King's books or Tarantino's movies, so why shouldn't we compare Abe's work? Imo you could even take Naruto filler arcs and all the movies into comparison. But ok, that's ot.

[mugenTaichou]

it's not like we are comparing fillers from two different anime; bounto and amagai arc belongs to bleach, therefore they are comparable.

We just said that we like this fillers more than other one... what's the deal?