2008-12-11, 09:08 | Link #865 | |
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<-Actually, I'm fine with that, though I'd rather have a AruSherRan Yuri OT3...
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2008-12-11, 09:15 | Link #866 | |
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Ok this discussion is pointless. Whatever guys, if you are content with your character being the way it is, let it be. Personally, i look for and expect a hell lot more when it comes to a chara's development. Oh and to reply to your previous comments about 2ch and a lot of people hating Ranka and proving what? Excuse me, but the same is happening here as well, with a lot of people bashing C.C and stuff or Kallen and the opposite. It is how fandom works, let's not be hypocrites and nit-pick whatever fit our tastes. |
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2008-12-11, 09:22 | Link #867 | |
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No I am basically trolling. Sigh, actually I am todally anti-chara bashing and I try (emphasis on try) my best not to do that myself (and often end up bashing fandom instead, lol, me the ultra hypocrite). It's often the case that your dislike towards a certain chara or pairing grows when fans of those charas or pairings can't stop to bash your favourites. This happens over and over in fandoms, and goes in vicious circle. Just here to say that I don't agree with any "accusations" above, not because I am a biased Ranka-maniac, it's just that I am delibarately blind to all the chara-flaws in Macross F and therefore likes them all.
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2008-12-11, 09:29 | Link #868 | |
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Oh yeah i noticed, you are talking about CG section? Cause ok, fun is fun but bashing constantly certain charas and their supporters is not. It's getting ridiculous at time. Unless trolling card is used everywhere, ok then. Anyway, to keep this on topic and not let Geass wank spill over here as well, personally, Ranka was a chara that could have potential but never lived up to expectations. Least mine. |
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2008-12-11, 09:35 | Link #869 | |
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Back to Ranka. I had different expectations for her and I am partly satisfied with the ending. It's not over yet, since we will have a sorta rewritten Movie. How do you want her chara handled this time?
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2008-12-11, 10:32 | Link #870 |
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lol, wander into Sheryl (I mean macross) forum and see Ranka Lee Thread on top...
Well, I don't wanna add more fuel lol, but if ppl wanna blame Ranka for immature/threatening human race etc again, they can look at my signature to see how I respond. Of course, my opinions don't represent others XD
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2008-12-11, 11:11 | Link #871 |
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@justavisitor: What is up with you and your signature? Geez. It's not exactly going to affect anyone's opinions, IMHO.
Anyway, on the Ranka topic. As stated, she had plenty of potential. Too bad she failed with other people's expectations and standards. Mine included. Here are the scenes that made me run out of Ranka-patience: Famous scene #1: Wow, Ranka. You sure couldn't sing well when your heart was broken because your in-your-delusions-boyfriend Alto and Sheryl happened to be standing on the same roof but your song sure did save everyone even after Michel was gutted before your very eyes. As you sang Aimo for the nth time, all you could think about was your stupid heartbreak and how Alto didn't hear your cutesy pop songs, never mind that Michel's death happened only a few hours ago. 8D Famous scene #2: They want you to sing a song of mourning and hope. What do you do? Run away! Why me?...she asks. Yes indeed, why her? Famous scene #3: I'm going away to Vajra-land to help stop the stupid fighting. It doesn't matter that I'm making this up as I go. But surely I'll be fine as I have Kaifun Brera, my cyborg guy! And I'm sure Frontier will be okay even if it's hanging by a thread and my songs are the only decent weapons right now. But I know what I'm doing! Besides, I need a break...especially after my heartbreak...sniff. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! Oh Haruhi, I can't breathe from laughing. XDD List is still long...but question is...do you want me to carry on? XD |
2008-12-11, 11:15 | Link #872 | |
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Srsly though, that was a major disadvantage to her chara, cause it seems her core of existence was there just for Alto-kun while people were getting shit from Varja around. She has a chance to stop this and she is too busy being moe about Alto hugging Sheryl. I mean, SRSLY? Gee, that was the moment when i said "man, fail. That girl had SO MUCH potential." p.s do not get me started on the whole Michel had to pay the moe bill. :/ |
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2008-12-11, 11:20 | Link #873 | |
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@incorrupts Actually, I absolutely think, judging from how aggressive Brera was, that he himself was ready to confess to Alto. I mean, think about it, it's no coincidence, he wanted to confess to Alto first that their hostility towards each other has blossomed into love. But then, Ranka got to it first and maybe that's why Brera was so angry but he still kept his confession to himself. *is shot dead*
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2008-12-11, 11:24 | Link #874 |
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No doubt, Ranka will be a part Macross history, but it doesn't mean it will be in a favorable light. Believe it or not, I was rooting for Ranka in the earlier part of the series, I didn't think much on Sheryl, as she was showing major negative-Minmay vibes. The date episode even sorta paralleled the one in DYRL! XDD
But as the series went on, Ranka's lack of initiative was gnawing at me. I'll take episode 10 for this case, I mean she mopes about how she didn't know about Alto's kabuki past but what does she do about it...NOTHING! XD Never even bothered to dig up any dish about her crush. All she could do was ask about Alto, his interest and hobbies but nooo....every conversation has to be about Ranka. By the time she shuts up about herself and asks something personal, it's already late in the series! I mean, c'mon! O_O Her ignorance is another thing as well. I mean, c'mon, how stupid can you get? Example for this is Ai-kun, if she had respected the Frontier laws, she'd have turned in Ai-kun and much disaster could have been avoided early on. But screw the rules, I'll have meself a cute pet even if I don't know what it is or why it isn't listed or if it is dangerous. 8D Her whining and spoiled me-me-me brat attitude didn't help either (Her Ozma-abuse in ep. 4 screamed BRATZ!). Man, how self-centered can you get? My favorite would have to be the parade. Okay, they give this all-out awesome parade for your honor and what do you do? Not show up for it! XDDDD Screw the fans, I'll go find my pet because clearly it's more important than all the little people who helped me become the next pop idol! XD LOL. Her dependency. I shudder. They want to use your songs for a weapon? What is your decision? Look at Alto-kun and ask if I should go for it. Alto-kun said I should, so I shall! *Giggle* it will help me score brownie points with him as well, YAY! 8D And if you can't depend on Alto-kun because he broke your heart by just happening to be on the same roof with Sheryl, then depend on Kaifun Brera Sterne, extraordinaire! |
2008-12-11, 11:31 | Link #875 | |
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I mean, expect everything to go your way without lifting a finger and when WOAH, Sheryl suddenly kisses Alto?{ cause face it, that is what Ranka's wet pants was what about in the whole series} NOES, WHY? Ahem, maybe because she spends more time with him, trying to understand him as well, instead of being in the moe corner? It actually annoys me how much shit this chara got, oh well. @forgotten: You enlightened me. :P |
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2008-12-11, 11:37 | Link #876 | |
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Glad I did.
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2008-12-11, 12:37 | Link #878 | |
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We hate Ranka because she is the heroine. We wouldn't mind her at all if she is only a secondary character. (Note: we hate Ranka has little to do with we love Sheryl, thus Ranka saves Sheryl or not doesn't matter to this case) As pointed out by Tak, Ranka throws herself to Alto at any possible point, more so than Sheryl. This is what I tried to say, not without underwear specifically. I was unfair? Yeah, this is why I asked you how you got to your conclusion that "Ranka wants to end the pointless war", mind I ask again.
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2008-12-11, 13:37 | Link #879 |
Alto x Ranka :)
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Well I can feel the love I've received already lol, well except nobody seems to be smiling >_> well as for the love triangle, I'll just wait for the movie to be released and hopefully it will get resolved there, everyone has made their points against my points and they're well noted but again, this is just my interpretations of how I saw everything.
As for Ranka wanting to end the pointless war, well that was shown in the episode where she was with Brera in space and she looked outside while simply saying that she wanted the fighting to stop. I forget which episode it was, probably either 22 or 23. That's how I came to that conclusion, and I guess there were a lot of immature Ranka "shippers" as you guys say, well then I'm new to these forums and that's not how I act. If you guys want to keep asking me about how I came to certain conclusions, then go right ahead and I will state my opinions on everything. |
2008-12-11, 13:52 | Link #880 |
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All well and good, but that's not really what you're doing, is it? I've seen some very nice posts earlier and you didn't really bother to respond to much... waste of time, I guess.
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