2009-01-19, 21:58 | Link #1 |
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Use of IRC chat rooms by groups (Why do they do it any more?)
Just an observation from someone who has been on the scene for some time... topic for discussion for those who have and haven't. In sitting in a few of the rooms on IRC, it seems like there is literally no conversation at all at this point. Years ago, it was primarily leechers, but there was still quite a bit of discussion/chat as well to accompany this. In this day and age though, it's all so faceless -- whether it be via torrents or simply using bots only, the human interaction is gone.
I used to help edit some scripts back in the day and the recognition of viewers was part of the appeal of doing the hard work on getting these done... there isn't any of that now it seems like. Interesting paradigm shift. |
2009-01-19, 22:32 | Link #2 |
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I think this is merely a function of the increased viewership of anime. Before, the only people who watched were those who really liked anime, and who spent a lot of time thinking about it. As the numbers of people watching has grown, the average interest in anime of fans has reduced. Not everyone watching is an otaku who wants to marry Belldandy anymore.
Channels (and I don't just mean IRC rooms here) talking about anime still exist, but they haven't grown as fast as channels that exist just for downloading. |
2009-01-19, 22:47 | Link #3 |
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I think you're expecting too much from the community. People have real lives and aren't sitting at their computers 24/7, so there will often be times when IRC channels will be completely silent. At other times, though, plenty of discussion can happen, concerning anything at all. (Yesterday we were discussing operating systems in a certain channel and someone denied the existence of XP x64... much conversation ensued)
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I don't usually check this forum, but the topic caught my attention and that quote really made me laugh. Belldandy =
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2009-01-19, 22:58 | Link #5 | |
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Also depends on the time, if most Americans are asleep, then a channel activity tends to drop. Most just come in simply to leech and can't be arsed to quit a channel so they "idle". While it seems like there may be a presense there, most are afk, it's an empty channel. I also remember approaching IRC with fear initally, esp with the idea that questions can't be asked cause it earns you an auto kick/ban. While the ops have to deal with idiots most times, for the sincere minority (even with rules read and all) kinda don't get a chance. Also there are some unwritten ettiquette around that you can only learn via epxerience (eg: to leave a question in a main chan, may be answered by a staff member 2 hours later) Sometimes to make mistakes earns an auto k/b or a kick without actually knowing what rule you supposedly broke. >.> It's like there's no patience for others beings anymore. But I can only observe a tiny tiny part based off the fansubbing circles over the last 2 years, anything beyond that, I dunno how it's changed/evolved. And your title for this thread.... xD
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2009-01-19, 23:40 | Link #7 |
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A lot of the issue is with a lot of fansubbers disliking the general leecher community and so don't even give them the time of day in IRC. Obviously, some groups are different, but even still fansubbers tend to distance themselves from leechers. Makes for few conversations.
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2009-01-20, 03:48 | Link #8 |
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I agree. My groups channel has decent discussions daily, but other groups with like 400+ are dead as hell. That didn't use to be though way back when. I remember when A-E had a few thousand ppl in it and it had chats happening nearly 24hr a day. IMO the chats die when the subbers themselves stop joining in on them. I always make a point of being less antisocial so my chan is lively which I think keeps staff more active in general and helps to keep them from becoming bitter or negative. Let's face it, stick a bunch of fansubbers in a room alone long enough and they will start being bitter, negative, emo, stuckup, cockbites.
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2009-01-20, 06:25 | Link #9 | |
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Staff channel wise, people should be going Fansub Royale on each other. I'd take it as a sign of the individual's personalities, rather than of the hobby we're all participating in.
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2009-01-20, 07:07 | Link #10 |
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Staff channels can be quite active :P But channels aren't like the old days; like friday night (/me is european) with aone's channel doubled in size with all the leechers waiting for naruto yelling/screaming/whatnot. I have to say I too was quite scared of ops back then
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2009-01-20, 07:45 | Link #11 | |
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Agreed, hee hee
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Aside from Death Note (latest example i can think of), I've not really seen that much activity where the general mass are practically hanging on the edge of a cliffhanger for dear life, dying for the next episode, thus resulting in general chats and forum activity being high. Well, Spring season is coming, let's see how it goes. But I think if more OPs are seen as active, approachable and not so threatening, it'll draw a few shy but socialable people out.
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2009-01-22, 01:27 | Link #12 | |
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Maybe if Touhou gets a real anime adaption......... |
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2009-01-22, 04:56 | Link #13 | |
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Though I could actually see an anime adaptation of Strange and Bright Nature Diety coming out extremely well. I'd watch it, at least. Maybe I just don't trust anyone to make anything serious. Last edited by Dark Shikari; 2009-01-22 at 05:31. |
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2009-01-22, 15:46 | Link #15 |
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Some people don't like using torrents to leech their anime (like me), as weird as that sounds. It also tends to bring the community together if you either a) don't have a forum or b) have a forum but don't have a lot of people posting. :>
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2009-01-23, 07:49 | Link #17 | |
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2009-01-23, 15:35 | Link #18 | |
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woa, #/a/ isn't even that big, and most people aren't there to download stuff. but #news and #nibl are like that, sure. |
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2009-01-23, 18:07 | Link #19 | |
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Not entirely true. I can think of one chan named after a translator that doesn't have emo cockbites in it (well, at least till I walk in...) There's usually quite a bit of chat in there too. Mostly dorama-related though, which I'm guessing isn't what you were looking for |
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2009-01-23, 21:48 | Link #20 |
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Well it is not why no one talks rather what if someone needs a question. I do agree that no one talks anymore. In channels with 500+ people it's often to see 10 join/parts and 3 name changes before someone talks, and it's usually !list or !<etc>. However, every maybe 5 minutes or less there's at least a staff member/someone who can answer the question/operator who could help people. Every time I want to know something about a group, the first thing I do is go to their site, then check out their IRC channel. What else would I do...send an e-mail? That's so 1999.
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