2009-04-03, 08:59 | Link #41 |
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I agree with DJLowrider's opinion that a song don't need to be 10 years old or more to be considered memorable, if not the "greatest of all time". A memorable song or should I say one that can be considered as one of the greatest of all time can be called as such even though it's been out very recently. It would be what some would like to call "instant classics". They receive near unanimous praise from music critics and the listening public. The consensus is that they most probably would stand the test of time. An example would be Coldplay's Viva La Vida and M.I.A.'s Paper Planes, two songs from last year that will have a long shelf life based on recurrent airplay and radio playlists.Another example, OutKast's Hey Ya!, Eminem's Lose Yourself and Stan made it in the Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time despite being less than 10 years old. Also, the number of anime songs produced during the early 90's and downwards are not that many compared to the music after that. In my honest opinion it is during the new millennium that some of the most memorable OPs and EDs were introduced.
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I mean, it would not be the first time for songs that were critically acclaimed in their time to be utterly forgotten later, and pieces who were promptly dismissed as run of the mill to receive universal appraisal in the forecoming generations. The first example would be Bach's Brandenburg's concerto's, which were writen for a contest as the director of a orchestra in Brandenburg. Bach works didn't made an impression in his time, he didn't even rank in that contest. However the Brandenburg concerto's are now one of the most widely performed works for violin enssembles. And no one remembers the people who won in that contest whatsoever.
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2009-04-03, 10:24 | Link #44 |
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If I had to point to a single anime that really began pushing the music used for series to the forefront, it would be the Bubblegum Crisis OVAs of the late 1980's. Before that series came about, much of the OP and ED music you find in anime has more in common with traditional Japanese music (a.k.a. enka) than with anything that was actually popular at the time. Not to mention it's largely boring to listen to on its own. BGC's music really opened the door in more ways than one.
Really, though, if you look back on anime music as a whole, things didn't start getting better (nevermind memorable) until the mid-1990's. Many of the series we hold now as classics from that decade are the ones that provided us with the most memorable OPs, EDs and insert songs that we today might consider among the "greatest of all time". Consequently, this is why originally I said I understood why people might want to put an age minimum on songs that get nominated as being the greatest. These are series and songs that got many people into anime in the first place, after all. It's natural there would be some amount of leaning towards them. However, take a moment and consider how far that would restrict things here. If we're saying a song needs to be at least 10 years old, then we're talking about anime that aired no more recently than 1999. Taking as a given, as I said earlier, that anime music prior to the early 90's was largely forgettable, you're talking about restricting our music selection for the greatest anime songs of all time to not much more than a single decade's worth of series to select from. That's not only unfair to the many memorable songs and series of this decade, it's far too narrow-minded. Age has little, if anything, to do with the quality of a given song. Like janfive said, there are such things as instant classics. Good, memorable music should be recognized on its merits, not something arbitrary such as how long it's been around.
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2009-04-03, 12:28 | Link #46 | |
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Still, regardless of my personal opinion I'm willing to compromise to an extent here for the sake of wanting to be able to assist further in this endeavor. At the very least you have to admit that 10 years is a ridiculously long period of time to put as a minimum age for a song to be considered here. I would think something more like 3 years would be much more acceptable. 3 years is long enough for most series to have completed their run and have been removed from being actively discussed and along with them their respective songs. If a given anime song persists after 3 years I'd call that plenty memorable enough to qualify.
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2009-04-03, 12:42 | Link #47 | |
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The same with personal Top 10 lists, even I don't wait 10 years, let alone 1 week. I recently added CLANNAD AS as one of my Top 3, and that is a series that just finished last week. Which is completely different from the scope of this particular thread, or at least from what I understand. For something to be considered the greatest and of all time, it has to follow a minimum set of guidelines, lest it becomes a naming game where everyone cites, precisely, their top 10. About the 3-10 years thing, well I have to accept that even that is kindof subjective. I tried to attach it to the time one generation of students take to enter and exit secondary and tertiary education, but even that is an arbitrary threshold. I don't know whether 3 years is long enough, but I guess we can compromise.
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2009-04-03, 13:06 | Link #48 |
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I think for now what we should do is get back to the proper business of this thread. We've derailed this far too much.
A few more recommendations: Give A Reason - OP from Slayers Next Ordinary Sunday - OP from Boys Over Flowers Angel Voice - song from Macross Dynamite 7
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2009-04-04, 02:09 | Link #51 |
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After skimming the debate, I have two answers.
Culturally important and unlikely to be forgotten: Cowboy Bebop's OP Tank! by Yoko Kanno, performed by the Seatbelts. Personal favorite that will probably always rank high with me: D. Gray-man's 3rd OP Doubt and Trust by Access |
2009-04-05, 09:28 | Link #52 |
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A comment was made that a song should be at least 10 years old before it is inducted since it is uncertain whether its popularity will survive with the passage of time. Good point since, kinda like J-Pop, some anime songs have a short shelf life - they're instantly catchy but rarely stick with you after the anime ended. On the other hand, it kinda defeats the "greatest of ALL TIME" theme of this thread if recent songs should be denied consideration. This thread was put up for the new fans of anime music. What better way to let them get acquainted to anime music than to give them a mix of the greatest of the new and the old anime songs. When the time comes when I'll rank the 1,000 greatest songs of all time (probably after the 100th week) I'll rank them according to their current relevance. Maybe if I'm fortunate enough to rank them again 10 years from now their ranks from the last list would most certainly be different. That's what polls and lists do, they rank importance on that point in time when they were conducted. I don't view them as definitive or set in stone but I see them as a good guide on music appreciation.
Here are my inductions into the Hall of Fame for Week 3: "Akatsuki no Kuruma" by FictionJunction YUUKA Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED (TV) Insert Song (episode 40) [2003] suggested by patnam Spoiler:
"Soramimi Cake" by Oranges & Lemons Azumanga Daioh (TV) Opening Theme [2002] suggested by KawaiiKimmy & DJLowrider Spoiler:
"Sorairo Days" by Shoko Nakagawa Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (TV) Opening Theme [2007] suggested by christinemarie Spoiler:
"Sakura Saku" by Megumi Hayashibara Love Hina (TV) Opening Theme [2000] suggested by christinemarie Spoiler:
"Kimi wo Nosete" by Azumi Inoue Tenkuu no Shiro Laputa (movie) Ending Theme [1986] suggested by ddwkc Spoiler:
"Grip!" by Every Little Thing Inu Yasha (TV) Opening Theme #4 (episodes 96-127) [2003] suggested by wOoOzZy Spoiler:
"TOUCH" by Yoshimi Iwasaki Touch (TV) Opening Theme #1 (episodes 1-27) [1985] suggested by -Kh- Spoiler:
"Doraemon no Uta" by Sakoto Yamano Doraemon (TV) Opening Theme [1973] suggested by Jan-Poo Spoiler:
"Open Your Mind ~Chiisana Hane Hirogete~" by Yoko Ishida Aa Megami-sama (TV) Opening Theme [2005] suggested by KawaiiKimmy & NerdyOtaku Spoiler:
"THEME FROM LUPIN III" by Peatmac Junior Rupan Sansei: Part II (TV) Opening Theme #2 (episodes 27-51) [1978] suggested by Tri-ring Spoiler:
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2009-04-06, 17:23 | Link #55 |
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Here are some of my favorites.
Papermoon. By Tommy Heavenly6; 2nd opening for Soul Eater. "I've always loved this song; the lyrics are awesome and are kinda pretty in a way." Style. By Kana Nishino; 2nd ending for Soul Eater. "This song is just too cute! ^o^" Tori no Uta. By Lia; opening for AIR. "Even time I hear this one it kinda making me teary, as this anime was the only one that really put me in tears. But it is such a pretty song." Let Me Be With You. By ROUND TABLE featuring Nino; opening for Chobits. "One word. Kawaii! ^-^" Kaidoku Funou. By Jinn; 2nd opening for Code Geass. "I adore this song! Code Geass has always been a huge love of mine and when I heard the song it made it bigger. It very up beat and makes you exctied." |
2009-04-06, 23:08 | Link #56 |
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I already suggested 20 out of my top 50 favorites for the past two weeks. Here's another 2 of my suggestions for this week. There's a new entry in my top 50 favorites which is just this year's new anime music to be added in my list. *although that new entry can't be suggested right now since Sony Company removed the video samples*
ending theme 4 of Yu Yu Hakusho by the late Hiro Takahashi "Taiyō ga Mata Kagayaku Toki" 1992 Spoiler for Open to view:
opening theme of Myself;Yourself by KAORI "Tears Infection" 2007 Spoiler for Open to view:
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2009-04-06, 23:36 | Link #57 |
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Libera me from hell it's the greatest without a doubt.
Others i like: Sanctuary from Earth girl arjuna BGM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYR_LNgMUmc Rewrite from FMA OP 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laWzZlJAR1k Shiki no uta - Samurai Champloo ED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8REhEEnEheY Shu Aka - Cyber team in akihabara BGM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4zZUJMzJP4 Will - Houshin Engi (Soul Hunter) OP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPGx0p0Ndfo Konna ni chikaku de - Nodame Cantabile first season ED 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-bHQKpOWmk And that's all. |
2009-04-08, 02:09 | Link #59 |
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I definitely have a few:
Good Luck~Towa Yori Ai Wo Komete~ (Urusei Yatsura ED9) http://www.youtube.com/v/48AeeV42LCk&hl=en&fs=1 Kagayakeru Hoshi (Ninpenmaru ED) http://www.youtube.com/v/5HodjU5-E1I&hl=en&fs=1 Katteni Shinryakushya (Keroro Gunsou ED) http://www.youtube.com/v/ihQDr0wos7E&hl=en&fs=1 Kirameku Toki ni Torawarete (Slam Dunk ED) http://www.youtube.com/v/8EvrNPQgWlg&hl=en&fs=1 Truth (Revolutionary Girl Utena ED) http://www.youtube.com/v/UIzu91cdbUQ&hl=en&fs=1 Last Alliance (Ouran High School Host Club ED) http://www.youtube.com/v/SyRbZlJ6OXY&hl=en&fs=1 Honou No Takaramono (Lupin III: Castle of Cagliostro Opening) http://www.youtube.com/v/otNNuUhl1uo&hl=en&fs=1 sorry, i don't know how to embed the videos |
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