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Perfect 10 | 208 | 44.26% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 79 | 16.81% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 55 | 11.70% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 37 | 7.87% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 22 | 4.68% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 7 | 1.49% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 10 | 2.13% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 9 | 1.91% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 4 | 0.85% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 39 | 8.30% | |
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2009-07-07, 03:22 | Link #441 | |||||||
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Sorry for taking so long on this one: I got confused by how you quoted your reply and didn't actually see your remarks for a while.
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What would have proven that Light could find it in himself to trust someone would be to put himself on a mental position of equality, or even inferiority to someone else - to show that he was willing to give. That was something Light never did and would never allow himself to do due to his personal flaws; because of the person he became after discovering the death note. That is also, from my view, where the mistake and misread were made possible, and why Light lost. Quote:
" Look at it this way before being so harsh on Mikami: what if Light hadn't been able to sit in the back of the car on the way to "arrest" Takada? That twist of chance would mean Light could not kill Takada in time. That raises two possible outcomes, leaving everything to depend on Mikami. He could either go to the bank as he should have and kill Takada (the important fact that is overlooked here is that Light had told Mikami he was unable to move, among the few things he divulged to him that he should have), or stay back and do nothing. In the event of the former, then Gevanni him having balls of steel and whatnot trails him and locates the real Death Note anyway, but Light may possibly realise that Mikami had killed Takada and tries his best to readjust the plan. In the event of the latter, Takada lives and the Death Note paper is found, and Aizawa would have enough proof of Light's doings and arrest him. The point that I either did not convey appropriately or you simply overlooked was that Light could not have possibly asked for a better ally than Mikami. He thought like Light, he felt like Light, and he was smart and loyal enough to be his apprentice. Yet Light used him as a pawn instead of a partner: the very same way he treated everyone. It was difficult for them to communicate, but they communicated through Takada - that was time enough for Light to talk enough with him. Yet he did not use it, most likely because he didn't respect anyone enough to treat them on even footing." Quote:
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I AM KIRA! I AM JUSTICE! I SHALL BE THE GOD OF A NEW WORLD!! HAHAHAHA AHUHAOWTUHWALUGHJAWEIUGNHWIUGJWAIYK!!!
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God, what a douche.
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2009-07-14, 19:05 | Link #444 |
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The last episode was video perfection. The last episode is epic win.
It was much better than the manga, in which Light is basically crying and whining to Ryuuk. It's funny though, how the show got kids suspended from school and had people murdering others and writing "I am Kira". |
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2009-07-28, 19:08 | Link #447 |
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It's true Light had a psychopathic break at the end when Near defeated him, but prior to that he was very rational. Wouldn't any of us react like that if we had the rug pulled out from under us? Think about it - one moment Light thinks he's about to become "Emperor of the Earth" and the next he is going to prison for life. I think that would cause a psychotic break in most people.
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2009-07-29, 05:40 | Link #448 | |
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Very rational? I...really, really can't figure out how to correct you whilst not coming across condescendingly. Just please: go watch the episodes again and take heed to all the times he rambles about his ambitions to become bigger than Jesus (and I do mean all of them), every time his eyes and hair glow red, every time he hurls up something ridiculous like "I'll take a potato chip, AND EAT IT!", every time he relishes gleefully or callously the notion of murdering a fellow human being or actually doing so...All of those and many more. He was turned insane from the moment he killed that biker. This is not subjective.
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2009-07-29, 19:04 | Link #449 | |
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2009-07-30, 05:13 | Link #450 |
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Light could've done great things without the Death Note as well. No matter how misguided he may have become, he was a genius, no getting around that. He never needed it to do great things. It wasn't a matter of L getting in the way. More like, the Death Note was what was really in the way. I mean, look at him after he relinquised ownership of the Death Note. You could see his opposition to anything wrong. Even something something as small as manipulating a woman's heart. It was the Death Note that deterred him from his original, and righteous self.
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2009-07-30, 19:06 | Link #451 | |
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2009-08-01, 03:45 | Link #453 | |
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If Light were a just person, he'd be seeking the truth even if it turned out that he was Kira. He would not have withheld information like that. |
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2009-08-01, 20:48 | Link #454 | |
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2009-08-05, 22:47 | Link #455 | |
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All right, can we go about and discuss points without all of this mudslinging?
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2009-08-06, 00:55 | Link #456 |
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That's a very good point. But still, losing ALL memories of the Death Note, his inner feelings should only have changed from the events happening. But, it does seem more likely that his morals remained unchanged. When he lost his memories he didn't want to believe that he was Kira, despite the fact that he questioned himself, he showed that he did not want to, nor would he take it upon himself to kill criminals as such. I still believe that he was corrupted by the Death Note for the reason. He also felt guilty after his first murder, as do many. He lied to himself to justify his actions, but still, the fact that he has to do that showed that his morals were changed in the process of using the Death Note.
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Seriously; had the Death Note arrived into Light's possession a couple of years later, when he would be a grown university student and policeman, there'd be a lot more reluctance to becoming a psychopath, if not probably a refusal.
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A. It wasn't an act, B. Light was genuinely concerned in a situation where he wouldn't have been previously?
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2009-08-10, 14:42 | Link #459 |
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Light was bored - that was his cause of corruption. I am almost positive the author wanted the readers to realize this, seeing how every description of Light started off with "A bored intelligent man." I mean all this showed is that the author wanted Light to fit the description of a typical serial killer - but with her own twists. Some of the most notorious serial killers were all geniuses: Jack the Ripper, Ted Bundy and even the fictional serial killers, JigSaw, Dr. Hannibal Lecture. Light fitted these characteristics to a tee, the only difference was he had a super natural ability. Light, up until the last episode, showed no emotion, no remorse, no fear, and stuck to his plan. There is also a quote in the last episode that knocks my point home. Light Yagami was insane - Light became so corrupt by his power and became arrogant and truly thought he was a GOD. Well Near - said "No, you're nothing but a serial killer." After Light proclaimed his power - well as you can see Light never thought he was insane, because by definition someone who is insane does not know they are. However, Light did not become insane until late in the series - in my opinion; simply because he always had a calm and cool plan to rid his enemies and cover everything up. Even though he was arrogant he never let that get in his way of his choices. It's interesting to say the very least but I would say that the author did an excellent job of creating a serial killer. Sick thing is - he would have be successful if not for a minor mistake.
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