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One of several reasons I never got into that show.
I wonder though, how tight a control the time travelers need over events in order to make them come out 'just as planned'. Evidence to date suggests theyonly need to more or less drop the hapless agent (Kyon) into the right time period and let nature take its course, but all of those instances were single, relatively simple events that either happened or didn't. |
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(On that note, that is one explanation on why Yuki locked herself away from knowing the future; it is more of a burden than a help to have every decision pre-determined.)
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2009-11-19, 03:35 | Link #67 |
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It's less that Time Travellers are unable to control their own actions and more than any action that a Time Traveller takes has already always going to have been done. Or was it that any action that will be done has already been done, or that any action that a Time Travellers takes was will be has been done...
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2009-11-19, 08:34 | Link #70 |
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"At the moment". As in, she spent about 500 years with the past and future completely destroyed. Causality ceased to exist in that Endless Eight time, even if she did repair the damage afterwards.
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2009-11-19, 09:27 | Link #73 |
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Not trying to blame Haruhi, in this case. It's not her fault nobody told her she is doing any harm.
I am just pointing out that it is clear Haruhi is free to violate any rules in the world, including temporal stability. And that so far, time travelers have no such freedom. (Of course, it wouldn't stop some extremists from trying. But my theory on this is off-topic in this thread; it would be relevant only in an hypothetical season 3 of Haruhi.)
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That's the story as far as Mikuru knows it, granted. And it is mostly true. But Kyon was able to make changes in how things went down, albeit small ones. So what I wonder is how much of a random factor there really is. |
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2009-11-19, 22:11 | Link #77 |
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So Kyon is sort of a walking save point?
Anyway, I suppose you could look at it that Kyon is the only one besides Haruhi who is allowed to tinker with reality, if only by her somehow allowing him the latitude to act as a sort of roving error correcter. |
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In fact, it is clear that Adult Mikuru is trying to avoid giving Kyon direct demands. She isn't out to order Kyon around, only to maintain temporal stability. And since Temporal stability is self-correcting to a degree, giving clues to Kyon and making a game out of it seems to be the smart thing to do. The idea being, there isn't any point being forceful about it. Ask nicely and Kyon will work something out, he is a reasonable guy.
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But then again, as Mikuru-chan says, not everything Koizumi says is correct.
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