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I'm not even looking for any overt manifestation at all. All I'm after is a realistic understanding of the characters. Don't you think pretending that they don't think about sex denies their humanity? Adachi didn't draw them sitting on the can either, but that doesn't mean they never shat. |
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2010-01-26, 14:04 | Link #1142 | ||||
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The sublimation of sexual energy into playing baseball is a major theme, and the running joke about how everyone on the team (except Koh) asks Aoba if she will go out with them if they reach an unrealistic goal is part of that. (No I don't want to take this back, and i found your reply below insulting and poorly spelled. If your dictionary thinks that prudery and priggishness are synonyms then you need a better dictionary. My guess is that you looked at a Merriam Webster product - don't.) Last edited by PeterI; 2010-01-26 at 19:03. Reason: added parenthesis at end. |
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2010-01-26, 18:24 | Link #1143 |
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Now you're just being wreckless. It's easy for people to look up "prude" for themselves so I'll leave it at that, but you may want to rethink your post before too many others read it. I'm pretty sure this is one you'll want to take back.
As to Adachi's stand on sex and morality, again, all I've got is what I've already laid out, so I can't presume to know what he really thinks. I wouldn't make as big a leap as you have, but until Adachi actually says something I suppose your guess is as good as anybody else's. At least we can agree that Adachi is not averse to sexuality, and the characters he created in Kou and Aoba share a normal sexual attraction towards each other, which really was the only point I cared about. PS: On the issue of Waka v. Aoba, we've already been down this exact same road before. Waka was a little girl in fifth grade. Aoba is a well filled out 17-year old. Two very different animals. |
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2010-01-26, 20:08 | Link #1146 | |
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Aint it funny that everybody's an expert on Adachi nowadays. |
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2010-01-26, 20:37 | Link #1147 |
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i'm amazed at how long Adachi can keep me on the edge of my seat, even though I think the result of the game is a foregone conclusion. We have had a pretty good baseball game for the last seven months. I think Koh will do something amazing next issue, but not necessarily a 160 km/h pitch. It is always possible that there will be an amazing save in the outfield. The only thing I would complain about is if there were a single tying run and we had a tie at the end of the fifteenth inning and a rematch. That would just be too much.
I'm not sure if any Adachi baseball hero has ever walked anyone on purpose. It would be logical for Koh to walk Mishima, even if it would draw boos from the crowd. Does anyone think it possible that Adachi will surprise us with an intentional walk? I can't see it happening, but I also can't see a sane pitcher and catcher not think about it. |
2010-01-26, 21:47 | Link #1148 | |
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It's kind of like expecting there to be a lengthy Koshien arc after this game is done: it's not going to happen because all the elements of the drama have converged on this point and there is nothing left to be resolved afterward. Anything more would just be bad storytelling, and if there's one thing Adachi knows how to do well, it's tell a story properly. |
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2010-01-26, 21:55 | Link #1149 |
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It looks like we have but three more weeks of Cross Game before it wraps up. I can't see the confrontation with Azuma dragging past the next chapter. But if it goes that way, that will leave two whole chapters of falling action, which seems a bit much for Adachi. If it ends with the same kind of not-so-ending that we've been getting from Adachi of late, Cross Game would be an excellent series, but I wouldn't be sure if it will rank among his greatest. However, if he does something special with these final three chapters, Cross Game could go on to become his magnum opus. At this stage of all his previous series I was relatively certain about how I felt about the whole even before the final chapters came out. For me, this is the first time that an Adachi series retained so much potential at such a late stage. It's been a great routine. I hope for once he sticks the landing.
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2010-01-26, 22:38 | Link #1150 | |
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2010-01-26, 22:43 | Link #1152 |
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They won't lose. Waka's whole dream of the Koshien and Kou and fat man being in it are what drives the story.
They lose. Good bye baseball. High school is done. Off to college where only Kou will be playing baseball. And that other dude who hits home runs.
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2010-01-26, 23:11 | Link #1153 | |
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Well then again this is just my pet ending. Never mind me.
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2010-01-26, 23:28 | Link #1154 | |
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2010-01-27, 00:00 | Link #1155 |
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On a side note, how common is it for the lead character in a sports manga to not be the best player on the team? I can think of at least three examples in Adachi's mangas:
Nine: Eiji Kurahashi (Pitcher) Hiatari Ryoko: Shin Mikimoto (Third baseman) Cross Game: Yuuhei Azuma (First baseman) I'll give Adachi some points for creativity, though it looks like the game will come down the Kou vs. Mishima battle. Regardless of how Mishima does, we all know who the best hitter is. |
2010-01-27, 00:03 | Link #1156 | |
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2010-01-27, 03:16 | Link #1158 |
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I love how when Kou is one step away from making Wakaba's dream come true he thinks of Aoba.
I actually went back to read the chapters before the Ryuoh game started and I gotta say Koh is carrying a lot of things on his shoulders into this game. Wakaba's dream, Akane's health, Aoba's feelings and the entire team's dream.
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