2010-05-30, 14:41 | Link #62 | |
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Then there's the matter of choreography. Who the hell came up with this while having these people in mind? I've attended many professional dancing events, where even 4 year-old children participated, but hey, they were dancing traditional dances, not some weird jive mix, which wasn't even executed all that well (which is natural, considering their age and respective stamina). |
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2010-05-30, 14:49 | Link #63 | |
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As to the clothing choice -- I would have them choose something more demure to balance out some of the sexual intonation of their moves. I think a change in outfits would not harm the routine. I think that the lace like that makes it look like something you wear to bed, as an older woman. That's why it's odd. |
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2010-05-30, 15:17 | Link #64 | |
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Lastly pretty funny how people suddenly get defensive and personally feel involved when it comes to short skirts etc. I bet your skirt doesn't end 3-5 centimeter under your gap ending together with belly showing tops or bikini tops. Short skirts are alright but what makes a person a whore in this situation is when, as I have said before, short turns into shortest. You can wear short skirts and look classy, it all depends on how short and what you wear with it.. lastly this topic was not about people personally, but if you post up things like I wear it and I am not slutty then realize this is still the internet and we don't have people vision. If people use skirt and whore in one sentence then all we can do is assume the worst of it all. But if momma doesn't want you wearing short skirts and you are under 18 then you should get your butt into some jeans very quickly because momma and poppa are still giving you shelter, paying for your food and the rest. You want your own dresscode, turn 18 and move out on your own first. |
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2010-05-30, 15:57 | Link #65 | ||
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And don't belittle cheerleaders at all. They're more gymnasts I'd call them than dancers but their training regime and skills are just as intense (if not more so sometimes) especially for the leaps, jumps and balancing. The kicks and flips need very good flexibility and stamina, so it's nothing as easy as donning on a skirt and looking pretty. The movie 'Bring it on', also shows a tiny glimpse into the level of HS cheerleading, it's pretty intense. Songleading (which I have done) is like cheerleading but without the jumps and mixes ballet, jazz and hip-hop into the entire piece too. Again, the training for the level of competition it reaches is hell because of the intensity of the competitions but these all do fall into similar disciplines of dance. This dance too is 'intense', perhaps as some people are reacting off as being something that 8 year olds "shouldn't" do. (In my eyes, if one isn't used to it, I can understand the shock) Some elements of the dance, I actually recognise from Beyonces vid (go check it out on youtube), as well as the trailer for the 2nd chipmunks movie (which is where the parents claim the girls wanted to mimic, again the link is in my previous post here). The other moves with the spins and turns I assume are their own. Those who're aware of the song probably recognises them and can see that the girls pulled it off pretty amazingly. As a few others have said, they've gone for something that feels 'too mature for their ages' given the attire as well and admonish the adults choices on how they've presented the kids, again I'm chalking it down to the intensity level of it perhaps that's feeling 'wrong' to some people. Feel free to let me know what is raising goosebumps for you on the dance itself. Again, what do we know in terms of how these kids live outside of performing or even if they're fine with it? If there's one thing about kids, is throwing tantrums when not wanting to do something they dislike, and I doubt any of those girls could pull off that dance without tens and tens of hours of training while hating it completely. As for the 'style', (as mentioned as 'weird jive mix') you may wanna read my and CuXe's posts on kids and urban music (dancehall for one) as a culture, the difference being that we do these kinda things in 'plain' clothes but dance wise the moves wouldn't be too far off.
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That doesn't have anything to do with what I am saying, though. It's not about me personally, it's about women - about people - in general. Quote:
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2010-05-30, 16:16 | Link #68 |
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Funnily, I mentioned Japanese students and kids aged 11 and under and the attire they're wearing previously. As Chey said, fashion wise, it seems to be mainstream and slightly 'normal' to be donning in mini skirts with leggings, hence kids (alike her own) request for it. I think it's more the class that goes with the lengths, rather than than it being a skirt. If it's tacky, it's tacky, but I can see this going off topic though from what the thread is about.
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2010-05-30, 22:17 | Link #74 |
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I watched part of the video after I replied and I would have said the same thing. Look, I'm not a judgmental person for the most part, but I have no problem being quick to judge on this matter. I was quick to judge on this because it is obvious there are problems with this (just like the little girl beauty pageants). I see 8 year old girls dressed like that and then saw them dancing in ways they shouldn't (when I watched the video), and I stick by my negativity. I don't care if they danced well, that is irrelevant. I was all about how they shouldn't be dressed in that attire (and as people have said, this is the fault of the adults) and dancing like Lady Gaga (also the fault of the adults). I have no problem being totally against that, and am happy to see some who agree with me.
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2010-05-30, 23:58 | Link #75 | |
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I'm going to keep my opinions on this video to myself, but I did want to say in response to some earlier posts that screaming "puritan" at anyone who happens to object to such things isn't much better than the accusation itself. It's a bit childish, actually.
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2010-05-31, 00:24 | Link #77 | ||
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I suppose I should have some thoughts about the about the actual issue of nine year olds doing a sexy dance in skimpy outfits, but I'm neither offended nor do I particularly approve of it. Maybe if the audience wasn't mainly parents and other dancers I'd think differently. Quote:
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2010-05-31, 02:48 | Link #78 |
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I really cannot imagine how those kids dance that way... affiliate amazon affiliate
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2010-05-31, 05:12 | Link #79 |
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Modern kids must feel really bad playing with dolls or dressing like cowboys. So they rush to become fashion models and businessmen before they even get their pubes. To them, money and fame beat dolls and cowboy hats.
And I guess parents love boasting around at how their kid is not a mediocrity. They probably even laugh at all the bookworm kids with an IQ of 130 for being nerds that are poor and unpopular. |
2010-05-31, 13:26 | Link #80 | |
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Mystique pretty much has stated thoughts on the subject that match my own so I won't reiterate them.
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