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Urzu 7 · 2010-06-26, 01:49

Hello, I'm looking to get my Wii playing in 480p. I was considering buying a display that is better than my SDTV, but the prices are too high.

Well, I have a HD monitor. In fact, my PS3 is hooked up to it. It lacks speakers, but it has a headphone jack that does the job. I was looking for a display that'll play Wii games in 480p for me, but someone suggested a receiver.

This would be an affordable option to me, however, I have a few questions. For one, what type of component cables does the Wii require? I need to know so that I get the proper receiver. I'm under the impression there are different kinds.

I was told to get one that is component IN and HDMI OUT. Can someone confirm this?

If I buy the good receiver, should it do good picture and transfer the sound? Will any ol' receiver give me good 480p image quality for the Wii, or do I have to choose wisely? Do I get what I pay for?

I hope some people can help me with these questions. Thanks to those who help.

Edit: I wonder if this would be what I'm looking for: http://www.cecompass.com/componentvi...converter.aspx

More from them: http://www.cecompass.com/hdmiconvert...FYM65Qodtxhy6Q

Edit 2: I have to get off the computer now, but I trust the site monoprice. I've ordered from them. Does this site have the product I'm looking for? http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp

synaesthetic · 2010-06-26, 11:05

Does the Wii have component RGB or YPbPr?

Either way get a a component to VGA cable. Going component to HDMI involves an analog to digital converter and that's more expensive.

***GHDpro*** · 2010-06-26, 16:08

A few things: the receiver needs to support some kind of video conversion or upscaling for Component->HDMI conversion to work properly. I have a receiver with both component and HDMI input and outputs, and it'll only output video on the same kind of cable (Component->Component and HDMI->HDMI). More expensive receivers do support upscaling, but I highly recommend you read reviews to check which is better and if it's worth doing so for the Wii.

If you just want a separate good quality upscaler, try something like the DVDO Edge. I've been contemplating getting such a device, but it's not cheap and not easily available in Europe (it does support 240V though).

For more upscaling/deinterlacing info for game consoles, see this site:
http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/
(this site also has some suggestions for much cheaper hardware than the DVDO Edge)

About Component/RGB compatibility of the Wii: US models support component, while European models support RGB (exclusively afaik: US models don't support RGB).

Urzu 7 · 2010-06-26, 22:55

Thanks for both of your inputs (Syn, I just recently got into Crystal Castles and then I saw your sig, heh).

GHDPro, that site should help a lot. I don't think I want a component to VGA cable, though, sounds like I'd have to hook it up via the DVI. The problem with that is, my HD monitor is hooked up to my computer via DVI. Plus the receiver will transfer sound, correct? I have no need to get a nice HDTV right now, so I'll save the money. In the meantime, my PS3 can be play in HD on my HD monitor, and I can use my monitor for 480p, widescreen Wii gaming. I just have to figure out which device to get that will do this well on my monitor.

So, that site GHDPro gave me should have at least one device that'll be good for that task.

http://cpc.farnell.com/1/1/46716-cab...3-logic-3.html

The Wii Component cables are RGB, it says on this page. I'll look through that page you sent me some more, GHD, but do you happen to know one or two of them on that site that are really good for RGB component in and HDMI out? It'll be good to hear someone confirm which are good devices to look into from someone who sounds like they know about such devices, and ones on that site, no less.

***GHDpro*** · 2010-06-27, 01:53

I only own a "High Box Pro" - a clone of the "HD Box Pro" mentioned on that site. I wasn't impressed because it didn't make the picture look any better through this device than connecting the component cables directly to the TV. But, it will do what you want: the ability to hook up a game console to a LCD monitor. And for 480p I don't think VGA is all that bad. The advantage of DVI over VGA is more important for your PC (or PS3 in case your monitor doesn't have HDMI).

What I was referring to with "RGB" regarding Wii is that while afaik all Wii consoles in the world support component, the US console also supports S-Video but no RGB Scart and the European model does the opposite (supports RGB Scart but not S-Video). RGB Scart is typically the best way to go to hook up a game console to a SD TV in Europe. For LCD TVs component is better (afaik). Sorry for confusing things.

Urzu 7 · 2010-06-27, 15:18

Well, my monitor has a DVI port, which is hooked up to my PC, and an HDMI port, which my PS3 is hooked up to, but I can use that port to hook up my Wii via a receiver. And that is no problem since the HDMI plugging is easy (unlock the DVI ports).

So an HD Box Pro will allow me to hook up my Wii to my monitor via the HDMI port (I just need to buy component cables). I'm not looking for enhanced imaging beyond what 480p provides. Just so long as the receiver will give me good quality 480p.

So, do you recommend I get an HD Box Pro? Would that be a good device for this purpose? Good quality and what-not? Should I get the HD Box Pro, or a knock off (if one is better)?

Thanks for your help, btw.

***GHDpro*** · 2010-06-27, 17:54

As far as I know the HD Box Pro will only output VGA. And just to repeat again: although I'm not 100% sure, a receiver with component and HDMI inputs and outputs will probably not convert the component video to HDMI. It'll only do component->component and HDMI->HDMI, so if you hook up your Wii using component and then hook up the receiver to your monitor using HDMI, I suspect you will not get a picture.

Maybe something like this will work though?

Urzu 7 · 2010-06-27, 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by GHDpro

As far as I know the HD Box Pro will only output VGA. And just to repeat again: although I'm not 100% sure, a receiver with component and HDMI inputs and outputs will probably not convert the component video to HDMI. It'll only do component->component and HDMI->HDMI, so if you hook up your Wii using component and then hook up the receiver to your monitor using HDMI, I suspect you will not get a picture.

Maybe something like this will work though?

Okay, this is more info here: http://www.cecompass.com/vgacomponen...-inscaler.aspx

It will indeed take a Wii and display it on something with HDMI. It upscales it to 720p. Does that affect image quality?

Then there is this: http://www.amazon.com/LinkStyle-Comp.../dp/B003ABST3G

Also looks like it'll do the job. I dunno which one to get. If upscaling is bad, maybe the Linkstyle is better. Maybe the cheaper one is lower quality.

Sides · 2010-06-28, 17:44

Since it is an analog to digital conversion it will add some lag in the process. Vdigi have a hdmi scaler specifically designed for the wii, VD-W3. Only disadvantage you can only use it with the wii, since the connector is hardwired. Input lag is appearently ~8ms.

Urzu 7 · 2010-06-29, 05:07

So that input lag is good for that device? 8ms is a small amount of lag?

It is okay if it only supports Wii. I have no other systems I want to hook up to my monitor, besides my PS3, which uses HDMI.

Thanks to everyone for helping.

Edit: It isn't available on the site. I might just go with the device that upscales to 720p. It has good user reviews, too.

2010-06-26, 01:49	Link #1
Urzu 7 Juanita/Kiteless Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New England Age: 40	Need help - HDMI/component receiver Hello, I'm looking to get my Wii playing in 480p. I was considering buying a display that is better than my SDTV, but the prices are too high. Well, I have a HD monitor. In fact, my PS3 is hooked up to it. It lacks speakers, but it has a headphone jack that does the job. I was looking for a display that'll play Wii games in 480p for me, but someone suggested a receiver. This would be an affordable option to me, however, I have a few questions. For one, what type of component cables does the Wii require? I need to know so that I get the proper receiver. I'm under the impression there are different kinds. I was told to get one that is component IN and HDMI OUT. Can someone confirm this? If I buy the good receiver, should it do good picture and transfer the sound? Will any ol' receiver give me good 480p image quality for the Wii, or do I have to choose wisely? Do I get what I pay for? I hope some people can help me with these questions. Thanks to those who help. Edit: I wonder if this would be what I'm looking for: http://www.cecompass.com/componentvi...converter.aspx More from them: http://www.cecompass.com/hdmiconvert...FYM65Qodtxhy6Q Edit 2: I have to get off the computer now, but I trust the site monoprice. I've ordered from them. Does this site have the product I'm looking for? http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp __________________ Last edited by Urzu 7; 2010-06-26 at 02:20.

2010-06-26, 11:05	Link #2
synaesthetic blinded by blood Author Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oakland, CA Age: 40	Does the Wii have component RGB or YPbPr? Either way get a a component to VGA cable. Going component to HDMI involves an analog to digital converter and that's more expensive. __________________ Indie science fiction author and all-around weirdo: Check out my original fiction here! Read an excerpt from my sci-fi novel Binary System!

2010-06-26, 22:55	Link #4
Urzu 7 Juanita/Kiteless Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New England Age: 40	Thanks for both of your inputs (Syn, I just recently got into Crystal Castles and then I saw your sig, heh). GHDPro, that site should help a lot. I don't think I want a component to VGA cable, though, sounds like I'd have to hook it up via the DVI. The problem with that is, my HD monitor is hooked up to my computer via DVI. Plus the receiver will transfer sound, correct? I have no need to get a nice HDTV right now, so I'll save the money. In the meantime, my PS3 can be play in HD on my HD monitor, and I can use my monitor for 480p, widescreen Wii gaming. I just have to figure out which device to get that will do this well on my monitor. So, that site GHDPro gave me should have at least one device that'll be good for that task. http://cpc.farnell.com/1/1/46716-cab...3-logic-3.html The Wii Component cables are RGB, it says on this page. I'll look through that page you sent me some more, GHD, but do you happen to know one or two of them on that site that are really good for RGB component in and HDMI out? It'll be good to hear someone confirm which are good devices to look into from someone who sounds like they know about such devices, and ones on that site, no less. __________________

2010-06-27, 15:18	Link #6
Urzu 7 Juanita/Kiteless Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New England Age: 40	Well, my monitor has a DVI port, which is hooked up to my PC, and an HDMI port, which my PS3 is hooked up to, but I can use that port to hook up my Wii via a receiver. And that is no problem since the HDMI plugging is easy (unlock the DVI ports). So an HD Box Pro will allow me to hook up my Wii to my monitor via the HDMI port (I just need to buy component cables). I'm not looking for enhanced imaging beyond what 480p provides. Just so long as the receiver will give me good quality 480p. So, do you recommend I get an HD Box Pro? Would that be a good device for this purpose? Good quality and what-not? Should I get the HD Box Pro, or a knock off (if one is better)? Thanks for your help, btw. __________________

2010-06-29, 05:07	Link #10
Urzu 7 Juanita/Kiteless Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New England Age: 40	So that input lag is good for that device? 8ms is a small amount of lag? It is okay if it only supports Wii. I have no other systems I want to hook up to my monitor, besides my PS3, which uses HDMI. Thanks to everyone for helping. Edit: It isn't available on the site. I might just go with the device that upscales to 720p. It has good user reviews, too. __________________

2010-06-26, 16:08	Link #3
*GHDpro* Administrator Administrator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Netherlands Age: 45	A few things: the receiver needs to support some kind of video conversion or upscaling for Component->HDMI conversion to work properly. I have a receiver with both component and HDMI input and outputs, and it'll only output video on the same kind of cable (Component->Component and HDMI->HDMI). More expensive receivers do support upscaling, but I highly recommend you read reviews to check which is better and if it's worth doing so for the Wii. If you just want a separate good quality upscaler, try something like the DVDO Edge. I've been contemplating getting such a device, but it's not cheap and not easily available in Europe (it does support 240V though). For more upscaling/deinterlacing info for game consoles, see this site: http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/ (this site also has some suggestions for much cheaper hardware than the DVDO Edge) About Component/RGB compatibility of the Wii: US models support component, while European models support RGB (exclusively afaik: US models don't support RGB).

2010-06-27, 01:53	Link #5
*GHDpro* Administrator Administrator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Netherlands Age: 45	I only own a "High Box Pro" - a clone of the "HD Box Pro" mentioned on that site. I wasn't impressed because it didn't make the picture look any better through this device than connecting the component cables directly to the TV. But, it will do what you want: the ability to hook up a game console to a LCD monitor. And for 480p I don't think VGA is all that bad. The advantage of DVI over VGA is more important for your PC (or PS3 in case your monitor doesn't have HDMI). What I was referring to with "RGB" regarding Wii is that while afaik all Wii consoles in the world support component, the US console also supports S-Video but no RGB Scart and the European model does the opposite (supports RGB Scart but not S-Video). RGB Scart is typically the best way to go to hook up a game console to a SD TV in Europe. For LCD TVs component is better (afaik). Sorry for confusing things.

2010-06-27, 17:54	Link #7
*GHDpro* Administrator Administrator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Netherlands Age: 45	As far as I know the HD Box Pro will only output VGA. And just to repeat again: although I'm not 100% sure, a receiver with component and HDMI inputs and outputs will probably not convert the component video to HDMI. It'll only do component->component and HDMI->HDMI, so if you hook up your Wii using component and then hook up the receiver to your monitor using HDMI, I suspect you will not get a picture. Maybe something like this will work though?

2010-06-28, 17:44	Link #9
Sides Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 42	Since it is an analog to digital conversion it will add some lag in the process. Vdigi have a hdmi scaler specifically designed for the wii, VD-W3. Only disadvantage you can only use it with the wii, since the connector is hardwired. Input lag is appearently ~8ms.