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It was only after Kyousuke pleaded with him for a long time and then eventually said that it was all his stuff that he changed his mind about that. As he already didn't like and didn't care for his son in the first place, Kyousuku owning stuff that his narrow-minded, intolerant self regards as devious fits well into his prejudiced image, and in beating him, he ultimately writes him off as a lost case. Further proof for the not-caring: After Kirino and Kyousuke had been at the otaku meeting, the father wanted to know precisely where *Kirino* had been. Kirino had to lie there because she knew perfectly well that if she said that she had met some friends and talked about anime, her intolerant and insensitive dad would instantly throw a temper tantrum and hand out some vicious consequences. Even though he's zealously questioning Kirino, he doesn't give so much as a single glance at Kyousuke, and Kyousuke just remarks to himself that his dad as usual doesn't give a damn about where he'd been. Quote:
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If it was his mom, he probably wouldn't have had to scream at all, but just tell it normally. From what we've seen of her, she seems to be rather tolerant, especially if compared to her husband. Quote:
He only grudgingly tolerates Kirino's modeling, and he's certainly not trying to tolerate Kirino's liking for anime at all. In China, the influence of the old Confucian values like filial piety is still much stronger, so while it's quite rare today to still find old-fashioned dads like Kyousuke's dad in Japan, it's not as rare in China - or in Chinese families in general.
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Yes, that also makes sense / sounds true. It's a good thing I live in Germany with my family so they adjusted to the lifestyle and culture. That gave them a very positive change indeed. Who knows what I could have been through if I lived in China up to now.:P
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2010-10-27, 07:21 | Link #44 |
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hi all!! :3
hmm just a curious thought, i dont know if this would be a stupid question or not hope not tho does anyone by any chance think that kirino wants to be treated by her older brother like "a little sister" from those games? perhaps minus the eroge parts Dx? -------------- and something else popped into my head o.o; during the most recent episode, when kirinos friends were in her room, and they mentioned that they dont look alike.. could this be.. that they're not related?! (i havnt done much research on it xD, so im just posting it up here hoping someone would answer them for me here :3) |
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I think that isn't Kirino's goal. She just wants to share her interests with Kyousuke who either way knows of her hobby because Kuroneko and Saori aren't by her side all the time.
And it's not impossible that they are actually not related but I do like to think that they are related as my personal preference.
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However, if that should be the case, she's still realistic enough to see that there's little chance of her big brother ever treating her like that. Quote:
That might be true about manga and light novel (no idea, didn't read them), but *not* for the anime - at least not in the first four episodes. At no point the father shows that he would admit his prejudice about anime was wrong.
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2010-10-27, 16:55 | Link #48 | |
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You could make a different case whether or not the father was lying, but he plainly admitted he would allow Kirino's otaku hobby, just not the eroges, which incidentally made up the majority of Kirino's collection. You're right that he hasn't shown that he would accept it, but he plainly stated that he would. |
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I thought that the father accepted the facts about the anime, and the otaku friends, but not the Eroge Games.. But then again, he would still tell Kirino to get rid of basically everything I think... (little confused at the moment )
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He didn't get anywhere, however. The only thing he reached was that his father was getting annoyed by Kyousuke trying to convince him otherwise. His father's bad opinion about anime in general (and eroge especially) was already set in stone, and he didn't want to change it. He didn't concede the tiniest bit and never admitted that anime by itself wouldn't be all that bad or anything. Because the discussion with Kyousuke was getting on his nerves and he didn't want to change his mind anyway, he brought up the R18 rating to stop any further discussion dead in its tracks. Since his father was so unrelenting and unmoved by his speech, this left Kyousuke the only option of confessing that it was all his stuff, not Kirino's. This only worked for the sole reason that his father already didn't like Kyousuke and had a very low opinion of him. Kyousuke playing eroge (in his fathers opinion totally depraved) fitted exactly in his father's preconceived image of Kyousuke being a bad boy with nasty vices and whatnot, so he instantly believed it without giving it any further consideration. Him hitting Kyousuke was his father's way of saying, "I'm finished with you, once and for all!"
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2010-10-27, 17:39 | Link #51 | |
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So as far as Kirino's secret stash goes, it still has to stay secret, but because her father accepts her anime hobby, then she's now free to talk with her friends about it over the phone in the living room or even invite them over. Kirino just can't show any of the nudity or sex scenes, unlike before when she couldn't even mention anything remotely anime-like at all. |
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2010-10-27, 17:56 | Link #52 | |
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After the talk with Kyousuke, he's now of the opinion that only Kyousuke has this anime hobby, which he still regards as gross as before. I'm not even sure her father would make any difference between ordinary anime and R18 stuff, for him both is disgusting. When Kirino talked on her mobile in the living room, she only could do that freely because her father was not around yet but still at work. Later when her father is home, she goes to her room to call her friends, so her father can't overhear her. The friends she invited over are her *model* friends, not her otaku friends. They don't know anything about Kirino's anime hobby, which is why one of them is so surprised when she meets Kirino at Comiket. If Kirino invited her otaku friends to her home, her mother probably wouldn't say anything, but if her father found out that they're talking about anime, all hell would break loose.
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2010-10-27, 17:57 | Link #53 | |
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His father was unwavered in removing Kirino's eroge. Eroge makes up the bulk of her collection, so removing only the eroge is the same as trashing her entire hobby. Spoiler for anime subs:
His father explicitly states that he's only getting rid of the eroge. Whether he changes his mind, or whether he was lying to Kyosuke is another topic for discussion, but it doesn't change the fact that he said he accepted Kirino's hobby. |
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"I'm not talking about her friends" quotes from Kirino's father, that means he doesnt really care that Kirino found Otaku friends one bit.
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2010-10-27, 19:43 | Link #55 | |
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He permit Kirino to meet Otaku friends, but tried to throw Eroge away!!! I guess some Otaku friends may love Eroge. If such Otaku friends meet Kirino, Kirino cant help stoping Eroge play Yes, her father was not wrong. Even he is right... Friends are just friends,not Eroge... But seliously he want to ban Kirino's Eroge, he should ban meeting with Otaku friends. Why? off course Kirino is already interested in Eroge very much.
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haha but yes. the eye colour thing is still a big mystery!! :3 |
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ookay then |
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yes daddy and mommy could have been Bb x Bb and they just happen to be lucky to have 2 bb kids :3 ahh good old biol lesson memories :3 |
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