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Perfect 10 | 34 | 40.48% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 21 | 25.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 14 | 16.67% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 10 | 11.90% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 4 | 4.76% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.19% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2010-11-18, 05:28 | Link #41 | |
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But then I also agree that Keima gives out an impression to be much cooler in the manga than his anime counterpart. My theory, is that Keima is shown alot more calculating in the manga, so its blushing scene is "cancel out". In the manga it is obvious that Keima is expecting Kanon to "have one last event", it is not as obvious in the anime. While I understand the producer want to sell CD, I think they go overboard with this episode.
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2010-11-18, 06:18 | Link #42 |
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- That orchestral piece playing when everyone was searching for Kanon was f***ing epic. Felt like I was playing an RPG in a critical plot point dungeon.
- Overall, loved the addition of Citron's back story, the best part is when she sang their song at the very end. That was such a nice ending. - That weird "Kanon! Kanon!" chanting totally ruined the mood for at that time they were doing it. |
2010-11-18, 07:05 | Link #43 | |
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2010-11-18, 08:50 | Link #45 |
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Excellent episode. I thoroughly enjoyed it. 9/10
This was a very slick and well-done production. I believe somebody else mentioned one of the pieces of background music, and I agree that the background music in this episode really made everything feel epic, with a considerable gravitas. The anime did a good job of properly conveying the scale of the events of this episode. This was more than one girl's heart or one lost soul on the line (which is important in and of itself, of course); this was a major concert, with thousands standing to be very disappointed (and a few standing to possibly lose their jobs) if Keima doesn't save the day. Thankfully, he did. I'm surprised that this episode isn't more well-received. I can understand initial dislike at Kanon's character, but her backstory and psyche is so well-developed and fleshed out, I'm surprised that more people weren't eventually won over by her. Also, it's nice to see Keima's more tender side come out. I also think that helps to show that there's a tragic and very sympathetic element to his character, one which might be of later importance thematically. He goes through the process of helping all these different girls, and basically entering into short romances with them, and yet he has to say goodbye to all of them. I don't care how cold or cool a person is; that has to start wearing away at you emotionally, over time.
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2010-11-18, 08:57 | Link #46 |
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Why Keima so far is not as cool in the anime as in manga??? I guess because his phrase line "I can already see the ending" does not give a strong impact ...yet...
And there is still plenty of time to fresh out his character. I mean, i didn't like Keima as a character until that arc with that cute cat (the one with the ribbon). Back when i read up to Kanon arc, i actually enjoy following Elsie only. But now, Keima's my most favourite male character That's why i'm a bit impatient about the slow development in this arc . Because I afraid S2 will not process well if the good stuffs in later episodes are not aired soon. Even when the anime put up near prefect adaptation so far+ use well original screens. That final 1 minute of her singing Citron's song to keep up her promise, for example. Brilliant!! Some sides of Kanon's character (her view on Citron for example) were not explored well in the manga comparing to this Anyway, didn't recognise the "Ghost In The Shell" reference until someone mention it. And it was in the manga as well... i'm failed at that xD
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2010-11-18, 09:56 | Link #47 |
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I just finished watching this episode and I must say that I enjoyed this arc a lot more than I did with the manga. The flow of the episode is nice with the additional scenes. It also left a better impression of Kanon for me.
I'm giving this a 9/10. I'm not bashing the animation but I just wish it was better. Would be 10/10 for me if that was the case. edit: I love the ending pic :P Last edited by MartianMage; 2010-11-18 at 10:31. |
2010-11-18, 10:13 | Link #49 | |
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And that's really all what I liked about this arc. The music and visuals in this episode. I felt that this story didn't need this long to convey, and it could've been told in 2 episodes had they cut down on trying to showcase her songs. Also, while she certainly received a great deal of time to develop, the amount of padding in between those moments made it very tedious. Personally, I'm apathetic towards Kanon herself, but at the same time I disliked this arc. I wasn't sure why when I was reading it, but the anime made it clear for me. It's really a journey into a pop idol mind and I found it to be a very bland one. To me her story was about her ''not getting enough attention'' until Kemia pointed out for her all the fans who care about her and that she'll be disappointing them if she doesn't get a grip. It made her look very self-centered and for lack of a better word atm, bratty. Kemia involvement was also something that bothered me. We noticed how he is showing more and more of an attachment with the girls he makes these brief romances with and is undergoing small bits of development to become a more empathetic person, but in this arc, his connection with the target is almost nonpresent. Kanon only noticed Kemia because he was ignoring her, and after she got what she wanted, it didn't matter to her if the two couldn't be together.
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2010-11-18, 10:31 | Link #50 | ||
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Also, Keima could have released the soul sooner but he didn't. I guess he went for the true end instant of the good.
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I'm surprised that this many anime fans seem to not like jpop. To me, getting to listen to pretty catchy (and with comprehensible lyrics!) jpop songs during a few episodes was a real treat. I guess that there's no accounting for taste, of course, but I'm pretty sure that the makers of this anime included all the jpop songs in part because they felt that most anime fans would naturally like them (why else are the overwhelming majority of anime OPs done to jpop music?). Quote:
As an aside, if you're looking for a more unusual journey into a pop idol mind, I'd highly recommend the anime movie Perfect Blue to you. Quote:
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2010-11-18, 10:57 | Link #52 |
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[mod edit: answer to other question split off into its own thread]
As for my thoughts on the episode: I'm of two minds. Personally I prefer other arcs to Kanon. And there was a lot of extra that didn't really need to be there to tell Kanon's story. I really want the first season to get to a certain point because it would make a good ending point and hook for the next season. With the expansion of the Kanon arc that is still possible, but not as certain as I once thought. However, trying to look at it from a non-manga viewer- this was probably a good decision. The extra additions, while not necessary, are also beneficial to telling Kanon's story and making it more about her and less about Keima. (One thought I had was that it seemed more like shoujo for some of her scenes- maybe it's intended to increase the appeal to female viewers too?). It was a well done expansion of the story. Additionally, there are the financial considerations. Kanon is easily the most marketable of the first season girls. As the money maker if she provides the financial stability needed to continue production into a 3rd season when all the really good stuff will be, then I can hardly complain about her getting a little more treatment here. Plus it will actually improve the 3rd season plot wise as well, so it really is a no-brainer. So my verdict is that as long as well get to the good stopping point with the first season, then I am not going to complain Kanon. PS: As for Keima being passive this arc- well of course. That's how you have to play Yandere characters like Kanon. Keima went the correct Yandere route: Ignore her until you force her to the edge of sanity, then surrender to her. Be a passive support for her during her possessive and inane listing of worries and insecurities. Wait for the real crisis to come. She comes to you for comfort. Reject the easy route of making yourself her reason for living, and instead convince her that she has self-worth of her own, regardless of what you or anyone else thinks. It's really pretty basic. Keima knew what he was doing- avoiding the bad ends on a Yandere route is very important. Remember what he said last episode about dodging the situation if it seems to good to be true- because it's probably a trap.
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2010-11-18, 11:12 | Link #53 |
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A pretty generic ending but livened up with Keima actually being affected by his work, an impressive animated closing and the show generally doing what I feared it might try spoiling.
Blog post... tomorrow cause I'm sleepy heh.
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2010-11-18, 11:40 | Link #55 |
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I vote this 'average'. The songs are just so-so, or maybe I have been expecting more than that. And the last thing I want to say is, even if I do not want to compare between manga & anime (since some of you may still not read it yet), they have been downgraded Keima so much. "We can use the loose soul sensor, Kami-sama!" What the hell is that! Wasn't that Keima's line >____< and what's up with the "I'll look everywhere!" >____< seriously man >____< Keima has been downgraded to an idiot... oh wait he really has the same VA with Yoshii-kun, hasn't he?
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2010-11-18, 12:08 | Link #56 | |
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Even if you say that, I don't see how Keima is downgraded. About the idea of using the sensor, the fact that whoever of those two said that line is insignificant at this rate. And it would only be noticed by manga readers (not like I remember)... which in fact wasn't yet. That said, the expressions didn't really change except for the blushing topic which in my opinion is also insignificant at this point. Either way, his intelligence is surely uneffected by those minor differences which have been brought up so far.
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