2010-11-30, 13:40 | Link #10201 |
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Swiss must ensure deportees not at risk
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNew...6AT35320101130 [Quote]The U.N. urged Switzerland on Tuesday to ensure it did not expel refugees to a country where they could face mistreatment, after Swiss voters backed automatic deportation of foreigners convicted of serious crimes. ...[/ Quote]
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2010-11-30, 14:31 | Link #10202 | ||||
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Somehow I think the only people really surprised about those releases are the masses who are fed with the correct world view by the local mass media (Insiders can hardly be surprised by the content of those cables). If this makes people rethink the quality of their local media... it might have an effect on journalism standards in general (for the better or worse remains to be seen).
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2010-11-30, 14:42 | Link #10203 | |
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Which is why i want manning executed by a firing squad. It is on ething to reveal possible war crimes and atrocities but it is another reveal information that serves no purpose except in embarrassing your country and putting delicate diplomatic work at risk.
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2010-11-30, 15:03 | Link #10204 |
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I bet against it, if you win I post a new photo in the post your picture thread. If I win you will post one... ah wait this cannot be decided... since there is no parallel universe for a comparison (so much for the unprovable claim that it will do more damage than good).
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2010-11-30, 15:39 | Link #10205 |
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The Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency is shutting down file sharing websites. I assume they would mainly go after international copyright infringements, but who knows with the DHS.
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2010-11-30, 16:58 | Link #10206 |
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this is another example of the damage wiki leak can cause.
it can set back important developments. the following pic details a conversation between a US representative and Israeli PM benjamin Netanyau. in it, Netanyau reveals that Israel and Iraq have considerable trade relations between them, but that its kept hushed up and out of public knowledge. Iraq's official policy (even after Saddams fall) is that it refuses to recognize Israel or to have any relations with it. anyone who knows anything about middle eastern politics and specifically Israel's relationship with Iraq will understand the significance of this fact, the positiveness of this development, and the reason why its kept hushed up. Spoiler for wikileak doc.:
you can bet your ass that whatever trade relations exist today, will be gone before the year is out. and thats a big step backwards for peace.
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2010-11-30, 17:22 | Link #10208 | |
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but any business dealings between countries has to be approved by the government itself (who can also forbid such trade). and in the middle east you'll be surprised how thick blood can be. you need to remember that this is Iraq we're talking about here. even by the standards of the Arab world, Iraq's always been exceptionally hateful of Israel. the country doesn't even share a border with Israel, and yet sent ground forces to aid in attacking it during several wars the country that offered cash rewards to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers for killing Israeli civilians. the country that, during desert storm, while at war with half the world, took time out of its busy schedule to fire 40 Scuds at Israel (who wasn't even involved in the war). when, after Saddam was overthrown, some american diplomat commented that he doesn't think there is any reason why the new Iraq wouldn't be able to establish relations with Israel, the immediate official Iraqi government response was to reject that possibility outright. publicly admitting that trade exists between the two countries is politically damaging to the Iraqi government. they may end up taking damage controlling actions to correct that.
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2010-11-30, 17:56 | Link #10209 | |
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2010-11-30, 18:00 | Link #10210 | |
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my main point was that Iraq has historically always been more hostile then most arab states when it comes to Israel. this happend before Saddam took power (in 1948) and after he was overthrown (like i said about that comment). its an Iraqi policy thing. that Israel and Iraq have developed considerable trade relations is an excellent development. the NEWS of it, on the other hand, may end up putting an end to it.
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2010-11-30, 20:00 | Link #10211 |
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Again, Assange brings nothing new to the table. Come on, these so-called secret documents contained stuff which are par for the course. Diplomacy is "speaking politely in public, and being brutally honest in private". While hardly flattering, can any world leader mentioned in the cables look at himself/herself in the mirror and completely deny what's been written about them?
Assange, please come back when you really have something which the average observer worth his salt had never even remotely thought of. Talking about the elephant in the living room is exciting for academics and historians.... and that's about it.
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2010-11-30, 20:12 | Link #10212 | |||
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Korea does not want to repeat the mistakes of German. Yes, I'm a nationalist Japanese/Korean who believes the Koreas and Japan needs to form a union, develop nuclear weapons, and be the counterweight to a reunified China. This isn't a joke, btw. |
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2010-11-30, 20:16 | Link #10213 |
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Consolidation of a unified Korea would take decades, and a Japanese/Korean Union? Ain't gonna happen. Those 2 would fight another war first before the question of a union can be settled.
Like it or not, a unified Korea requires the consent of the PRC. If the PRC is not sure that its interests are protected if such a thing happen, unification will not happen. Period. Point taken on it not being a joke. Still, the PRC is sitting on the prize (mostly).
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2010-11-30, 20:22 | Link #10214 | |
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Korea is not Germany. It does not need the consent of anyone for reunification. That's only to make the neighbors comfortable with the situation. |
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2010-11-30, 20:25 | Link #10215 |
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Actually, it already known that some Arabs countries do trade with Israel but won't officially admit it. I remember two news stories about Israel secretly selling uniforms to the Palestinians and oranges to Iran.
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2010-11-30, 20:26 | Link #10216 |
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If the PRC puts itself as an obstacle for unification, I reckon that there is no way for South Korea to reunify the peninsula by itself, even with US help. Also, the US will not want Korea to grow too strong for it to break free of US influence completely.
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2010-11-30, 20:31 | Link #10217 | |
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Shall I continue? After all, the only thing China has right now which is of advantage against ROK is manpower, and even that isn't that much an advantage. |
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2010-11-30, 20:35 | Link #10218 |
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DPRK agreeing? Wow, I'll wait for moon colonisation.
Seriously, the DPRK military is like the Myanmar junta. They want their riches, they will not share it and they will fight to the death for the right to hold onto it. We Chinese have a saying for it: 人为财死,鸟为食亡. Literally "Man will die for wealth, and so will birds for food".
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2010-11-30, 20:38 | Link #10219 | |
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2010-11-30, 20:42 | Link #10220 |
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You're still operating on the basis that unification will come. From how I see it, there seems to be a hardening of attitudes in the South that unification is undesirable. Logistically and politically, the odds are against it so much that I probably will live to see it only if I go to 90 and above.
As for the North, their idea of unification is to change the South in their image. Wow.
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