2011-03-09, 14:10 | Link #7901 | |
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Honestly, I'd rather Hata had kept her out of the picture until he was ready to actually do something with her, but oh well. Given the timing with the popularity poll it may not have been entirely his decision. Alice is worth a chuckle from time to time, at least, even though so far her moving in has been about as eventful as it has for Hina--good for throwing in bits of fanservice and/or comedy to keep their respective fans happy, but that's about it. Athena will get her body back around the end of August in story, which is basically forever from now, so we might as well get used to it. I'm not complaining, exactly. Hina and Alice have made pretty good gag characters so far as tenants and help liven up the new mansion a bit. It's just that compared to Chiharu basically jumping from neglected side character to new main character, their inclusion feels a little random. Last edited by madmac; 2011-03-09 at 14:26. |
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2011-03-09, 20:18 | Link #7902 | |
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The only good thing is for the fans of the pairing, Athena x Hayate has basically been killed for the next three months of story. Which, honestly, may have been Hata getting back at them for ordering him to give her opportunity to return to be part of the harem at the end of the Athens/Golden Week arcs.
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2011-03-09, 23:14 | Link #7903 | |
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It's only now that Hayate thinks he was rejected by her that Athena is now part of the harem, because now Hayate will be clueless toward her advances. It's also not so much that Athena's return was rushed as her reappearance as Alice. Athena told her butler that she would return to Japan. There is also some foreshadowing for Hayate's brother's involvement, since he was the one who rescued Athena 10 years ago and was the guy in the torn photo that Yozora took turned Luka's concert. Athena also mentioned Hayate's brother again when she snuck into the apartment. Athena turning into Alice however, which had little to no buildup at all. It's as if Hata turned her into an amnesiac loli just to postpone her subplot. |
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Mikado was already the major villain, Hayate already had quite a stable of girls as his harem, there was no place new for her to have turned until it was given to her when she revealed herself to be playing mind-games (before the inclusion of Athena as a chessmaster, the closest member had been Miki), which wasn't until Machina's statement in the chapter after. Quote:
Ikusa has not needed Athena's intervention to interfere in the story so far, and no relationship has been implied between them, except by fans, most of which is laughing at Athena fans I believe. And there is little to implicate that it was actually Ikusa in the photo. Given that there's hints that this is not the first, or possibly even second time it's happened, 'Alice's introduction has had significant impact on the plot. Not in the way that Athena-shippers wanted though.
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2011-03-10, 09:07 | Link #7906 | |
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The Flashforward way back in Chapter 268 takes place on June 12th. That's only 12 days away now. |
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2011-03-10, 12:39 | Link #7908 | |
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2011-03-10, 13:02 | Link #7909 | |
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2011-03-10, 13:46 | Link #7910 | ||
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Hayate states it's been less than a week. Also, I was clearly the statement I'd made on a comment I'd read, not the translation. And I wasn't arguing, I was clearly agreeing with the slow pace. I messed up the days/weeks though.
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2011-03-10, 13:58 | Link #7911 | |
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Box: May 30th (Monday) And Box: May 31st (Tuesday), dusk —— We also know that Hayate met Luca on Sunday, May 22nd, because again, we were given an exact date at the time. There's no need to muck around with vague (And incorrect, Hayate met Luca on a Sunday, not a Saturday) statements when we have precise figures to work with. That's just silly. |
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2011-03-10, 14:07 | Link #7912 | |
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And we know from the failed 'mystery' chapter that we're not always told the correct facts either.
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2011-03-10, 19:37 | Link #7915 | |
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I think Hinagiku fits the 'Normal' better though, since it was depicted as a rather normal childhood (and her hairstyle is not one that a poor family would have been able to support her having), and she hadn't had to deal with the debt, and then her foster parents are said to be rich, but it seems to be a more 'normal' lifestyle, similar to Ayumu's than to any of the others.
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2011-03-10, 20:35 | Link #7916 |
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Hina had a brief period of poverty after her parents ran off (she even refers to it in chapter 310), but yeah, normal childhood.
(and wtf, three sets of runaway parents in the same manga? Parent issues much, Hata?)
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2011-03-10, 20:55 | Link #7917 | |
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You forget Chiharu's parents, they stuck with her quite a while longer, but they still left her after burning down their house. Isumi and Sakuya may still have their families, but they don't do much better than having not been there at all. Parental Abandonment is apparently large in all anime/manga according to the page there.
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2011-03-10, 22:39 | Link #7919 | |
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2011-03-11, 00:28 | Link #7920 |
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So i got bored andgot caught up with Hayate.
This wa about 120 chapters of straight reading, from the end of the fiirst End of The World arc till now. My impression on character develpment: Nagi's mom is someone I fiind tbe the most mysterous characte in the manga. Izumi is mych like Nagi' s mom and s an allaround fun character. Hinagiku needs to gve up, she was mryr favorite character befoe teh readng, but it doesnt seem hayate will ever "get it" and she repeats the same things oer and over when thee is ossibility fo elationship progress. I wasnt sureabout athena, but she won me oer inthe Agean sea arc. I dont thinkshe will get a long term relationship with hayate though, she is actually tooo pefectand right now hed go to jail.......... Luka or Luca has already aulted to the top of the list of favorite characters and not just because of relatonship possibities, since I am strongly considering her to be related to hayate possbly. Its just, mabe even more so than hayate, she eeems to be a greater sympathetc figure. what ime thinking is that shes had it as bad or wose than hayate, but unlike him, she wasnt saved and tried to manage that herself.Thats wher i think this is headed. EDIT: I am bad wth this keyboad and didnt bother proofreading, but everyone should understand me. Last edited by alu546; 2011-03-12 at 04:00. |
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