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2011-03-30, 09:22 | Link #12782 | |
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2011-03-30, 09:38 | Link #12783 | |||
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human civilization progresses the most when in direct compatition with each other. its always been that way. WWII, for all its horror, also led to incredible technological breakthroughs. the cold war, was even more so. human civilizations standing around having a dick waving contest tends to lead to greater advancements then anything else. now, rather then having more WWIII, i'd rather see another cold war period. you know, back when both countries we're trying to prove who's dick was bigger. but why should it be limited to just two countries ? EVERY country should act as if its inherently the greatest nation on earth, then do their best to prove it. Quote:
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2011-03-30, 09:44 | Link #12784 |
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Technological breakthroughs? I'm pretty sure science has become advanced enough at this point to stand on it's own two feet without the aid of war to keep it going. In that regard I guess i just have more faith in humanity than you do. And I honestly don't see how current wars have helped achieve technological breakthroughs in anything other than better weapons.
Besides you can justify a lot with that kind of thinking. Amazingly you've just tried to justify the worst one so there's no real point in me in showing you the slippery slope. You're already right at the freaking bottom.
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2011-03-30, 09:50 | Link #12785 | |||
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its about CHALLANGE. COMPATITION. rather then having that compatition stem from war, wouldn't you rather have it stem from a need to prove who's best to for the sake of being best ? Quote:
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its stating facts. compatition breeds evolution, be it natural or technological. i say, why wait for the reason for that compatition to be WAR. why not have it simply be an inherent need to prove who's best.
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2011-03-30, 09:53 | Link #12786 | |
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At least, learn to spell the word. It's "competition". And no, evolution is not only competition.
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2011-03-30, 09:56 | Link #12787 | ||
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both of you seem mistaken in my aim. I'm not pro-war i'm pro-progress. competition breeds progress, hence, i'm pro-competition. so why have only WARS serve as a cause for competition ? why not have it be an inherent goal of every civilisation to prove who's best ?
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2011-03-30, 10:01 | Link #12788 | |
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2011-03-30, 10:03 | Link #12789 | |
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Why play if not to win.
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2011-03-30, 10:03 | Link #12790 | |
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Being able to accept differences or varying pov's is another way to evolve as human beings. We've created many, many things thanks to competition, but even with that, all the things humans have created over time wouldn't have come to be without the cooperation of a group of people. It's not just one person who creates computers, machines, etc. There's a whole process involved in the creation of anything, and some people are better at a certain process than others. It's when people work together that they truly excel at what they do, and it is when people don't push themselves so hard through competition that they can be more productive over longer time periods. Always trying to push beyond the limit of what people are capable of have negative effects on society as a whole as well, and that's part of the reasons why wars take place. Just have fun |
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2011-03-30, 10:06 | Link #12791 | |
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I don't need to think England is the greatest in order to defend it. As you can see I have enough national pride in me to take issue at being told we're "hopelessly misguided"
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2011-03-30, 10:14 | Link #12793 | |||
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for PEOPLE. but the topic was about countries. very large groups of people working together. its true that pushing individuals too hard can have a damaging result on them, but we're not talking about individuals here. Countries in competition allocate more resources to things that they wouldn't otherwise allocate them to. think of how much the space race was effected by the US and USSR's dick waving contest. and how much it faltered since the end of the cold war (they just shut down the shuttle program, and there's no replacement in sight). once the race was over, why bother. Quote:
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i find it misguided. the UK used to be the empire that the sun never sets on. when did you just decide that you should aspire for less ?
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2011-03-30, 10:24 | Link #12794 | |
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We were left brankrupt because of the second world war.
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2011-03-30, 10:30 | Link #12798 | |
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For example, looking at the race of competition in the US, one can understand how it affected the labor market, and there's various reasons why a lot of business activities were outsourced from the US to other countries were finding the same or similar quality labor is easier due to pricing differences. The same can be said for other developed countries, namely in Europe. Much of modern competition and innovation doesn't revolve around innovation in the classical sense anymore, but around marketing, how well you can advertise yourself or what you make or do. Competition in organizations, companies, governments, is more about making sales than real and genuine innovation. Competition in the larger scale is more about getting more people under your wing by encouraging them to buy your goods. Evolution, by definition, is the growth of a certain body, be it individual or a group of individuals, as a result of experience gained from survival. If you take a really close look at the sort of breakthroughs that have occurred since the cold war, much of the competition and innovation has encouraged the production of goods that do not neccessarily have a huge effect on people's evolutions. Machines being created to ease people's lives. As a collective body, a country, it makes people more reliant on these machines or computers and less able to work on their own. In the long run, it inhibits people's ability to grow and as a result, evolve, and this in turn affects the country's ability to evolve. |
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2011-03-30, 10:39 | Link #12800 | |
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I want my flying car damn it. maybe if China started producing them, the US will get its ass into gear. being brankrupt means you don't have enough money right ? why not simply make more money then ? make a flying car.
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