2004-10-27, 19:38 | Link #21 | |
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Anyway, I understand this is a Kaji Kawaguchi's work, so It's expected to be more historical and political fiction than astounding fun and action. His Eagle manga (nominated to 4 Eisner awards) has been published in the USA by Viz, and if you have read it or seen the Silent Service anime you know, sadly, It's not aimed exactly to naruto fans. Aren't really enough people interested in it? aaaghs!! |
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2004-10-31, 13:07 | Link #23 |
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I'd like to add my name to the list of those who'd like to see Zipang subbed. I've done three cruises on JMSDF ships as an exchange officer, one of them involved 10 days on JDS Kongo (the first of the class of the fictional destroyer JDS Mirai). I found the first episode of Zipang to be accurate in every detail of background, including the Combat Information Center. I was living in Japan at the time the manga Silent Service caused such a political uproar that banning it was discussed on the floor of Parliament, so the real world political fallout from the series could be as interesting as the series itself. I'm sorry to have only been able to see the first episode so far, but when the DVD's come out I'd be happy to supply raws (before then if I can get my hands on some off-air DVDR's)
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2004-10-31, 17:38 | Link #24 |
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I doubt there will be any political fallout from the series; the manga's up to 16 volumes of insipient whining and nothing's happened yet.
Wcswett: I'm not suprised to hear that the technical aspects are accurate... Is the real Japanese navy that wimpy though? |
2004-11-01, 15:05 | Link #26 | |
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2004-11-01, 18:59 | Link #27 | |
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2004-11-02, 00:45 | Link #28 |
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Could someone post some information about the Zipang manga for a curious newbie? I'm very curious what direction the story takes, and googling "Zipang" doesn't yield -anything- relevant in English that I can see. I'm mainly curious about the stance such a film would take towards the war -- are these modern Japanese sailors pacifistic -- "stop the war, save our country from humiliation" or whatever (yes, I know that's a gross oversimplification with some cultural stereotypes thrown in, feel free to correct me on the nuances) or, as a previous poster suggested, eager to enter the war and leverage their technology to change the course of history, a la Harry Turtledove's Guns of the South?
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2004-11-02, 10:21 | Link #30 |
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Sounds good to me!
Hey! What you're describing is exactly what I would expect from a Kawaguchi's work and actually what I'm looking for, I mean, people discussing wether they should or not interfere with History and the true attitudes and motivations hidden behind it rather than fast paced war action scenes.
I would honestly enjoy such a show and I truly believe It deserves a chance. |
2004-11-02, 11:05 | Link #31 |
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I agree, I would be glad to see at least a couple of first episodes subbed. Its not common that you see this kind of anime, it deserves a change.
I have only seen first episode, and I liked it, and according to preview of second episode, it has something to do with the Battle of Midway. |
2004-11-02, 11:48 | Link #32 |
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I'm really rough on how to get 26 episodes worth of drama out of "Should we, or shouldn't we interfere? If we don't, what else can we do?" I mean, I've seen episode-long arguments before.. but 26-episode-long arguments? But I'm a fan of military stuff, so I'm still curious.
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2004-11-02, 14:27 | Link #33 |
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That's the thing though, man. They DIDN'T discuss it. They're all evidently big sci-fi fans and so they know that bad things happen when you mess with history... and so they all decide not to. No debate at all, really.
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2004-11-02, 14:56 | Link #34 |
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"Zipang" goes through:
A. "Let's not get involved in altering history" arc B. "If thousands of Japanese military servicemen can be saved, we should try and help them out from what we know from what happens" arc C. "What-if scenarios as an Imperial Navy Officer learns about the future and goes on his own to change the course of history" arc |
2004-11-02, 19:58 | Link #38 |
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I'll talk to some people, if it peeks interest, I might pick it up...although id really like some info and screencaps on it.
Edit: I have most likely set up a joint on it, so hopefully it will work out. Ps: If anyone could help me with RAWs, message me. Last edited by Joker-kun; 2004-11-02 at 21:36. |
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The RAWs are listed at AniDB and they are very common via ed2k... getting them isn't a problem. RAW Video (640x480, 23kps, DivX 5.11) Click to open... So far... the only fansubs out there are in chinese. Last edited by SKEEZI; 2004-11-03 at 00:40. |
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