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View Poll Results: Steins;Gate - Episode 16 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 53 | 54.08% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 28 | 28.57% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 12 | 12.24% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 2.04% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 2.04% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.02% | |
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2011-07-19, 16:22 | Link #41 | ||
I'll end it before April.
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She remembred eveything one year before her death. That's why she wrote this letter because, if it was not the case, she wouldn't. He sent a d-mail to himself to tell him to not stop Suzuha in episode XXX. Quote:
Well actually, I think it's more probable that Mayuri is not saved yet. I'm saying that but if that's the case then how could this happen ? After all, from what I understand, in the beta line, Mayuri always died at this time. So if she didn't die her that's mean it's not the beta line anymore no ? Then...
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2011-07-19, 16:23 | Link #42 | ||
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As for the divergence number...I think Mayuri's death is imminent until it goes past 1% (btw 0.4 is 40% but whatever :P) and I expect to spend the next few episodes raising that number bit by bit till the second climax. |
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2011-07-19, 16:23 | Link #43 | |
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This is where the first big hints that Daru was Suzuha's father popped up because of some strange camera focuses and the fact that Daru missed the meeting that Suzuha went to for Okabe's little get together. Okabe decided to change the past by sending a d mail to stick with suzuha and prevent her from going back. There was a storm that nigh though so when Okabe changed the past so that Suzuha stayed, her time machine also stayed but got broken by the storm. What Okabe did in this last episode was send a dmail to nullify the previous dmail, to not keep Suzuha in the current timeline. Hence, the group (Besides Okabe) lost all their good memories with Suzuha and she never stayed through that rain storm in the first place.
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2011-07-19, 16:27 | Link #47 |
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As the anime seems to be aiming for the true end of the VN, episode 16 just passed Suzuha's ending in the VN so this should be safe to post. Here's a video of Suzuha's end, fully translated, if anyone's interested how it goes down.
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2011-07-19, 16:29 | Link #48 | |
I'll end it before April.
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Or maybe there is a scale of change ? Maybe since Suzuha's change is more important than Okabe's one in the previous episode (all the time he tried to save Mayuri and failed) Mayuri death will happen later ?
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2011-07-19, 16:36 | Link #49 | |
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Yes, there's no problem with the most world line where she kept her memories, I'm talking about the previous one where she spent 24 years without any memories and yet apparently used her father's name. I kinda thought she would turn out to be Daru's mother/grandmother for a moment lol (kinda like what happened to Fry in Futurama).
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2011-07-19, 16:37 | Link #50 | |
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2011-07-19, 17:10 | Link #51 | |
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2011-07-19, 17:41 | Link #52 |
RUN, YOU FOOLS!
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Yea, I am usually angry at how it can be badly used, and people who hanged around me knows how much I think it was one of the worst thing to happen to a certain franchise, but in this series, it came off alright.
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2011-07-19, 19:21 | Link #54 |
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Awesome episode! This series is getting more and more interesting by every episode... if this keeps up all the way till the end (not many episodes left*cry*) it'll be my all time favourite anime series. If the VN had an English translation I'd definitely check it out!
I actually was sad for Suzuha... I wonder if she managed to find the IBN5100 now that she didn't have the amnesia. As for the end of this episode, I guess (just speculation) that either Kurisu is dead/will be the one to be killed instead of Mayuri OR Suzuha's death was enough to "satisfy" the unavoidable fate in which Mayuri died no matter what. AAarrgh, now I'll have to wait for the next episode :(( What did the lab members need the IBN5100 anyway btw? I thought it was just for decoding the SERN stuff but was it actually time machine related? |
2011-07-19, 19:55 | Link #55 |
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This is the first Steins;Gate episode that I actually found a bit hard to follow the plot for, probably due (at least in part) to the last time leap and how it was handled overall.
While Suzuha meeting her father was a very sweet moment (one that the anime probably needed), I felt that the episode bringing back up how Daru spoke those seductive lines to her made it seem a fair bit more awkward to me once the father reveal was finally made. On the flip side, I loved how Mayuri was the one to piece it all together, and her explanation of it all was very sound and well-delivered. It was good to see her get a chance to shine intellectually, especially given the company that she keeps. Aside from that, this episode was another one of Steins;Gate's usual high quality.
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2011-07-19, 20:24 | Link #56 |
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Damn this episode had a rough high and low moment. Finally getting the confirmation that Daru was Suzuha's father was great. It was too bad at that moment that she had to go and wouldn't have a way to go forward. Guess Daru before he died should have improved to a version that could move forward and backwards in time instead of just going in one direction.
But geeze getting the fate of Suzuha immediately after that jump was horrible. I mean she lost her memory and thus spent years not accomplishing her mission. Feeling like she failed and full of regret she killed herself . That was definitely harder than seeing Mayuri get shot. I mean she sacrificed so much to go back, wanting to make a better future and giving up so much in the process. In the end to feel like it was a complete waste is just too horrible. I agree with Okabe's decision to send this d-mail. A lot was lost with the world line changing. Yet really having Suzuha living her life (even though ironically she died at about the same time) without feeling that level of failure and at least being able to tackle her mission is better. Just about anything would be better than what that letter contained. The real downside is that this is the end of Suzuha's presence in the story. She's gone, the 1% barrier wasn't broken, and things are still uncertain. Can only hope for the best and that Okabe will get around to filling everyone in since the information that Suzuha gave them was critical. As far back in time as you can have something receive the message. They managed to hit a pager after all so they can definitely send messages pretty far back if they try.
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2011-07-19, 20:57 | Link #57 |
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Yeah, the more I think about it, the more it seems they botched it up. It could be easily explained that she might have remembered bits and pieces of her memory and pieced together her name from it. But having both times Mr. Braun refer to Suzuha as Hashida Suzu is really a bit hard to swallow.
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2011-07-19, 21:08 | Link #58 |
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I have the feeling that this wasn't the last thing we have heard from Suzuha and really hope that I'm right.
As for how far the D-mail goes back: If the same rules that apply to the Time-Leap also work for the D-Mail: Just to the point where the D-Mail was first activated (Taken from Kurisu's explaination) This theory of Kurisu's would concide with the thing they probably took their idea for the D-MAIL from a mixture of D-Mail and Time-Leap Microwave : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRWwI...eature=related |
2011-07-19, 21:38 | Link #60 | |
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or maybe because she met Daru at offline meeting?
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