2011-07-23, 01:51 | Link #15021 |
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Bringing up a post from a moderator I greatly respect, and who is far more eloquent and to the point than I've ever chosen to be. And a link to the actual post from months past. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1576610853-post128.html We have a very, very different view of things, and there will never be agreement between us on these issues. It is like fire and ice. The two views cannot co-exist in the same space. |
2011-07-23, 02:02 | Link #15022 |
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Of course not. Like most right-voting, non-rich people, you are hoping for the chance to become a member of the top 1% that pisses on everyone else. So you wouldn't dare support anything that could ruin your chance to be the pisser, rather than the pissee.
Trickle down economics, amirite?
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2011-07-23, 02:07 | Link #15023 |
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This whole debt talk is stupid, they should just raise the ceiling long ago just to cover the bills. They are blaming the president the long recession, and I do think president should take the heat since he is the head of the country. However, no one has really give a deep thought that what if the stimulus is not passed, what would happen then? I honestly think that the country went in default then, and the situation would be much worse now. There are inefficiencies in the way that stimulus are spent, that is a given and it could be spent more wisely for a better effect. In today's talk, I can feel the frustration and anger with the president. Those so call politicians who try to stop whatever the president and his party are proposing are here just for scoring "political points". I think they have no real interests in trying to make the country better. Now I am scared that I am going to be jobless because of this political infighting
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2011-07-23, 02:07 | Link #15024 | |
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2011-07-23, 02:09 | Link #15025 | |
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2011-07-23, 02:15 | Link #15027 |
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Actually, now that I think about it, justin, I agree with you!
You shouldn't have to pay all those taxes. You should be able to opt out. So when the fire burning down your house threatens to destroy everything you own, the fire department can say, "Sorry dude, you opted out." When the neighborhood gangbangers break in and steal your bigscreen, the police department can say, "Nothing I can do, you opted out." I'd wonder exactly how you'd get to work, too, since the roads you drive on are paid for with tax dollars. You'd probably have to go by helicopter or something. You'd also pay a lot more for food, since most agriculture in the US is subsidized, so you'd be paying full, unsubsidized prices. You'd have to filter your own water, too, since most water treatment is publicly funded. And you should probably consider rigging some solar panels, since most electrical generation in this country is also partially paid for with tax dollars. Oh, and the internet you're using? That was originally a government project, and hundreds of billions of public dollars went into the internet's gradual evolution. Well, I could keep going, but we'd be here all night! To me it looks like you save quite a lot of money and trouble by paying your taxes!
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2011-07-23, 02:16 | Link #15028 | |
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The road taxes pay for help get people to business, the jobs it creates help keep business afloat, and allows people the opportunity to pursue happiness. Without education or the opportunity for education people are much more limited in what they can achieve, not saying its the only path but for a lot of people its the best path. I'm fond of academia but some might not be.
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2011-07-23, 02:18 | Link #15030 | |
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Those people on welfare you deride? Without it, they add nothing to the system. With it, however, they can spend money. That money spent will be used to benefit businesses in your community. Even you benefit from them getting welfare, and likely by more than you pay in tax, though indirectly. You said you owned a construction or roofing company right? I could be mixing you up with someone else. Regardless, with the welfare recipients being paying customers of local businesses, said businesses will be better able to afford your services. This isn't as obvious as your taxes coming out, but it is a real effect. Without welfare, your business would probably take a hit. Also, that guy's remark about his faith? The bible quite specifically tells you to pay your taxes. Trust the word of the lord? The lord has spoken, and he said to pay up. Mark 12:14 - 12:17, Luke 20:22-20:25, Romans 13:17
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2011-07-23, 02:20 | Link #15031 | |
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I doubt very seriously that we'll actually default. It would screw the millionaires worse than us. This chicken-fight posturing is mostly for the benefit of the upcoming election. They are showing off in front of the voters, and they'll compromise at the last moment and blame the other side to mollify their supporters.
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2011-07-23, 02:23 | Link #15032 |
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I can see this section of the forum has a lot of tyrants that believe they deserve whatever I work for. Freedom, Liberty, all of that means nothing to you guys. Guess we never really got rid of Slavery in the 1800's afterall...
http://townhall.com/columnists/walte...ns_pro-slavery No wonder our country is in the crapper and swirling down the drain. Oh, and I'm not at all worried about credit ratings going south, or credit defaults, or Armageddon for that matter. I can survive on my own just fine without some Government to protect me, as can most of the people in my life. |
2011-07-23, 02:32 | Link #15033 | |
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this is my beef with some students when they go to higher ed... http://gawker.com/5822160/what-happe...-student-loans http://gawker.com/5696300/what-20000...ebt-looks-like ... how can they do this to themselves?! let this be a fine example of a worst case scenario when you go with your 'feelings' and pursuing liberal arts! ... my liberal sister almost got suckered in into lib-arts... i talked her out of it and now she has a real degree and is currently working (and soon gonna make a killing...) in Price Cooper Waterhouse!!! |
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2011-07-23, 02:32 | Link #15034 | |
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But...it's something said from afar. I could barely imagine what you and others over there must be feeling right now. |
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2011-07-23, 02:39 | Link #15035 | |
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There is a need for both parties to come to a compromise with each other directly. Without the interference of self-proclaimed middlemen known as lobbyists, politicians, and probably the Congress. Meanwhile I'll try to keep myself from shorting the USD/SGD. Fix that debt ceiling bullshit please so I can continue trading the US market. *sarcastic*
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That's more of a problem with our loan system and its ability to discern the people who are able to show they are responsible enough to repay their debt.
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2011-07-23, 02:55 | Link #15039 |
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Going $200k into debt is not possible with Federal student loans alone. Most of that debt would have come from banks, so it's not even really an issue of taxpayer funds being negligently used. You have a hard cap as to what you're allowed to borrow with federal loans, and it's not nearly that much. Based on the cost of your school's tuition, but only to a certain point.
So it's not the government's fault there, it's the banks who lent to her.
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