2011-08-12, 22:19 | Link #41 | |
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So yeah. Lesser of two evils.
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2011-08-12, 22:32 | Link #42 | |
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2011-08-12, 22:39 | Link #43 | |
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Well, at least he fits in with the rest of the teabaggers! Bet he thought it was pretty funny when they pelted that crippled Parkinson's patient with spare change!
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2011-08-12, 22:43 | Link #44 |
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Unf. I have to vote democrat, not because I particularly like democrats, as I think they're mostly a bunch of take-my-tax-dollars-and-hand-it-to-the-poor-schmucks-who-are-poor-because-they-make-garbage-financial-decisions (in fact our POTUS is a freaking former community organizer from Chicago...LOL), but because the alternative is a bunch of loony theocratic corporate shills.
Now if Ron Paul wins the republican nomination (read: FAT CHANCE) then I'll actually have a choice, ditto if Colin Powell actually ran. But at the moment, it's Ron Paul surrounded by a bunch of crazy imbeciles. The conservatives of yesteryear with their fiscal hawking and stay out of everyone's way are far different than today's omniscient-morality-license-and-give-megacorps-free-reign-over-the-U.S.-and-the-rest-of-the-world-so-long-as-they (the corporate politicos)-get-their-rewards-eventually. I mean put it this way: Dr. James Simons, the founder and chairman of Math for America (and the stupidly hilariously successful Medallion hedge fund within Renaissance Technologies which pumps out 40% returns net of fees every year with mathematical computer models) goes straight ticket democrat, as do people like Eric Schmidt. If there were a good, smart, reputable republican running for the office of POTUS such as Colin Powell, Ron Paul, or Michael Bloomberg, they'd most certainly have my vote at this point. But at this point, it seems that it's going to be Barack Obama vs. some crazy right-wing loony. And in this case, I simply have to vote not to put the better candidate in office, but to keep the loony from bowing to his or her (yikes!) corporate masters and throwing what's left of our country off a cliff.
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2011-08-12, 22:49 | Link #45 | |
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2011-08-12, 23:10 | Link #47 |
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While there are a lot of people who do try to game the system, I think it's better to let a few thousand welfare cows sit and watch TV and get fat than to doom many more thousand good, productive people who fell through the cracks and couldn't climb out on their own.
As someone else said in another thread, you can't just do nothing with poor people. You can either help them stop being poor, which is what most developed nations do, or you can kill them. You can't just tell them, "sorry, we can't help you, you have to help yourself." Because they will. To your stuff.
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2011-08-12, 23:13 | Link #49 | |
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Congratulations. Voting is an fundamental importance to everything in society (whether you are an American or not).
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To be fair, the 1950s saw the integration of the school systems and the 1890s and 1900s saw Teddy Roosevelt (and others) starting the Progressive Movement. |
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2011-08-12, 23:13 | Link #50 | |
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Sadly, my vote has no effect on who gets elected. As Itherko already mentioned, I live in CA. CA's electoral vote is for the Dems regardless, even if I want to vote for a Green or Independent.
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2011-08-12, 23:26 | Link #52 | |
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2011-08-12, 23:38 | Link #55 |
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It's hard to care when you don't exactly think that any of them or really up for the job. Suffrage is pointless if you vote out of a sense of habit than a sense of responsibility. I would care, of course, when I think the one who would clearly be a better choice loses.
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2011-08-12, 23:44 | Link #56 | |
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Then again, my vote doesn't mean much anyways.
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2011-08-12, 23:47 | Link #57 |
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At the same time, even if one is clearly better than the other, if neither of them are still fit for duty in my eyes then I prefer to vote for neither. I prefer to give my vote, even if it's practically symbolic than effective at this point, to someone I think actually deserves it.
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2011-08-12, 23:57 | Link #58 | |
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I can see where you're coming from, though.
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2011-08-13, 00:29 | Link #59 |
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The thing with not voting is that it isn't a protest. If you don't vote, you don't exist.
Politicians don't care if you don't vote. A protest only matters if you are noticed. So vote minority, of someone you actually support no matter how unlikely. You don't vote just to win. If anything, all those arguments about Swing Voters are exactly that; people who don't care about either side but vote anyway. If being a Swing voter is so damn important that news media have to dedicate airtime to it every election, you can't say your vote won't count.
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