2011-08-19, 05:50 | Link #2261 |
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Oh hey, scanlation's out.
After this chapter, I have to say that it's become somewhat of a mystery on where Yui gets her figure from seeing that it obviously doesn't come from genetics. The flashback with Yami is new & seems to have happened only recently. More foreshadowing I suppose what with the assassin's new fascination with reading the romance genre. So far, this is probably the chapter that I've enjoyed the least. In part, surprisingly enough, because there wasn't enough Rito, or more precisely Rito/Yui interaction, involved in this Yui centered special. Another is due to the "back to the usual business" type of ending. And lastly because of Mio, who's basically only Risa's backup buddy/Haruna's extra friend, taking up panel space. |
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2011-08-19, 08:20 | Link #2263 | |
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No, Haruna was decrying Rito as a gigantic perv who really did do Risa, and wasn't just flustered when her friend started talking about sex with the guy she loves. True story, right bro?
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2011-08-19, 08:30 | Link #2264 |
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They should just write Haruna off for good. Apparently a fictional character is tied too closely with personal issues. If some bad blood outside the series is affecting her character or the way the audience views her character that much, then she can't go on. There's no point.
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2011-08-19, 08:50 | Link #2265 |
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I don't think its affecting the way she is being written though. Her personality hasn't taken a sudden nose dive, nor has her I.Q or looks. The only thing that is different is her deminished screen time, and even that isn't a great deal.
Chopping her out entirely would be a terrible idea both due to fan reaction (she has her fans, and unlike what this forum would generally tell you, she is by no means universally hated) and in-manga, because then they'd have to deal with Rito's love for Haruna, without Haruna. If he gets over her dissappearence too quickly, it comes off as a huge blunder.
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2011-08-19, 09:28 | Link #2268 |
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yeesh, you guys really dislike Haruna don't yah, it's kinda funny. The way I look at it, it really isn't Haruna's fault. Or rather, it's more of an indication of Yui's maturity over Haruna's, her relationship with Rito is a little more mature than Haruna's because they went through different things together. Unless Haruna and Rito go through anything that creates development, I'd say she isn't fairing too well in the end game.
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Yet poor Haruna is still as predictable as ever, smacking him away at the first sign of perversion. Even Yami doesn't do this anymore, and Lala's never done it at all. She could really learn from those two. Quote:
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2011-08-19, 11:15 | Link #2271 |
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The smacking him thing is Haruna's schtick, the cast is already aware of this. And Haruna never says anything unless its her crotch he's face planting in.
Yet poor Yui is still as predictable as ever, scolding him at the first sign of perversion. Even Yami doesn't do this anymore, and Lala's never done it at all. She could really learn from those two. Seriously dude, fucking listen to your own double standard. Actually, its worse than that. Yui scolds him weather its someone else acting shameless with Rito, and even ifs its not technically his fault. Haruna only seems to do it out of an embarrassed reflex. Unlike Yami (and Yui, in a different way), she has never gone out of her way to abuse him or punish him for his percieved lewd behaviour.
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2011-08-19, 12:53 | Link #2273 | ||||
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And Yui's near constant scolding is supposed to endear me to her?
Fundimentally the two acts are the same. The difference is the intensity and reason. Haruna smacks him out of the surprise and embarrassment of being groped, while Yui scolds him out of the feeling that Rito needs some form of punishment for his misdeeds. Quote:
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2011-08-19, 14:38 | Link #2275 |
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Really? Aside from Yami, I'd say Yui is the most problematic when it comes to admitting her feelings for Rito. For her to admit them, even to herself, is a significant step forward IMO.
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2011-08-19, 14:49 | Link #2276 |
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@Haruna & Yui: Both stay quite well in their respective character role. Yui as (one of) the local tsundere and Haruna as the timid + shy childhood friend-type even if she's not by 100 %. And in here lies the basic problem. Yui progressed while still staying in-character eg. her scolding whereas Haruna just remained the shy + timid girl. Her greatest development might have been in TLR1 where she told Lala about her feelings for Rito, but after that? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the shy + timid girl archetype. It *is* possible to give them proper growth without drastically changing their in-character behavior, it may just not be as interesting/funny generally as with other archetypes. I think that for Haruna to progress and not instantly slide into a RitoXHaruna ending, Rito must lose his Haruna-only mindset. It will eventually get boring to see each confession attempt being interrupted if there are any further ones.
As for Yui: In TLR1, she was - for my taste - relatively late introduced and I didn't really care for her due to Lala-fanboyism. So I thought the mangaka had to put more emphasis on her development in order to put her on equal terms with Lala + Haruna. And by now her progression "speed" has imho been quite impressive. Maybe not as impressive as with Yami, but still quite fast, ignoring that I usually do not try to analyze/look in-depth into manga development. Her valentine chapter is only surpassed by her first TLR: D + perhaps the current chapter. Last edited by Mahou; 2011-08-19 at 14:53. Reason: worst typo ever |
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Like I said, the scolding and violence reaction is fundamentally the same, but you are absolutely correct that Harunas is worse and she needs to stop it. Quote:
I've seen some times when Haruna gets into pervy situations with him and she doesn't smack him, but those have weird circumstances around them. For example, during the time that Haruna stayed at Rito's after dinner and they thought Sabuki was a burglar - Rito grabbed Haruna's ass and she smacked him for it. But right after that they stuffed themselves in a tight little cupbourd where Rito's knee rubbed against her crotch. Haruna dismissed it as unimportant. Another time was when Haruna landed on his face as usual - except they were distracted by the killer dinosaur. Another was during Haruna's birthday party, when they played twister. Lala ended up scolding him that time I even found a time when Rito stumbled and Haruna caught him from behind, her hands in the exact position Rito's usually end up in. Then she told him to hold still while she soaked up the sensation, mentally telling herself that she needed to exercise self control The time way back when during the sea-side school trip, when Haruna hide him under the covers may or may not count During Trouble Quest Haruna landed on Rito's face, but Haruna simply seemed to jump off him. Yui was the one to kick him that time ---- I found at least one. Chapter 27. He falls forward and grabs her ass, but she just runs away. Ah, that was a long time ago. I'd like to take this time to mention two things. 1 - I'd forgotten how bloody cute Haruna looks with bangs. See chaps 77 and 135 and you'll understand what I mean. and 2 - Man, those two can get in a really good mood when nothing prevy happens to interrupt them. Thanks Freeter. Debating with you made me think back to possible scenes, which lead me to check on said scenes, which lead me to reread some awesome Haruna chapters. Quote:
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You're almost making it sound like Haruna's on the level of the yanderes in BakaTest. Yes, she's hit Rito quite a few times when he groped her - just like Yami and Yui did. Furthermore, unlike Yami, she doesn't hit him on purpose - As Ashaman said, it's just an automatic reaction. Although you could argue that if that's truly the case, then she should hit Risa as well. Err, let's just say she can instinctively tell when it's a woman doing the groping Still, she's clearly not doing it on purpose. I've been re-reading the series in anticipation of the final volume getting released next week over here, and I must say I find Haruna more likable then I remembered. I had totally forgotten she hid Rito in her futon when he was about to be found out by the other girls during the class trip, for example. Her main flaw is her passivity imo, but it's not like the other girls of the series aside from Momo are very proactive when it comes to romance. It's perfectly fine to dislike her (I don't like her that much myself, she's my least favorite along with Nana in fact), but I don't think she's done anything that warrants the sheer hatred she's getting in this thread.
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Another thing my rereading of some chapters makes me remember - Rito actually has an active libido, fantasizing about Haruna coming into his room at night wanting to sleep with him one night, and then on another day imagining Haruna bnt over, ass in the air and skirt rolled up and telling him to take responsibility. Also, he used to kick the crap out of Ren. Which was actually rather awesome
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