Macross Frontier 2nd Movie: Sayonara no Tsubasa

[LoveMeKags]

Originally Posted by Falcor

IMHO, those "colorful metaphors" were meant to be sarcastic, not an actual critique. Otherwise I'm sure they wouldn't bother encoding them into the sub file. That is what makes it more of a running gag than anything else, since those aren't mere comments; they are the assigned string variables used whenever Ranka lyrics popup on screen. Adds a lot of unnecessary bulk to the sub file, but who's going to honestly complain - they did take the time to make the sub in the first place. For that, I'm sure many of us are grateful.

Ah, I guess you're right.

But still... really... was it necessary...?

[Falcor]

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

But still... really... was it necessary...?

It could have been worse. Obviously one of the authors of that sub isn't a Ranka fan, but if they really wanted to be snide, they could have made her lyrics tiny or used a ridiculous font.

[LoveMeKags]

Originally Posted by Falcor

It could have been worse. Obviously one of the authors of that sub isn't a Ranka fan, but if they really wanted to be snide, they could have made her lyrics tiny or used a ridiculous font.

Well, I'm not a Sheryl fan, but when I fixed the subs on mine, I didn't put such ridiculous things as notes. Though, I did about the fake deaths...

So many stupid fake deaths... troll Kawamori...

[moncikoma]

30周年について
「今のところ『マクロスF』本筋の物語はこれで完結。ランカの魔法少女ライブのスピンオフとかなら、やって みたいですけどね。2012年に『マクロス』は30周年を迎えます。その頃にはまた別のアプローチができれ ばと思っています。みなさんとまたお会いできますよう！」

On the 30th anniversary
"With this film, the main story of "Macross Frontier" is complete. If we're talking about something like a spin-off of Ranka's "Magical Girl Live" then I'd love to try doing it. In 2012, Macross will see its 30th anniversary. I'm looking at whether it's possible to take a different approach. That we may meet again!"[/SPOILER]


ranka spin off? magical girl....
i never thought kawamori is intrested in mahou..

but i think i want it to be true if sheryl is also appear...maybe as a villian...!
a witch! that would be cool!

[Darthtabby]

Originally Posted by moncikoma

ranka spin off? magical girl....
i never thought kawamori is intrested in mahou..

but i think i want it to be true if sheryl is also appear...maybe as a villian...!
a witch! that would be cool!

The obvious role for Sheryl in such a series would be as a fairy who grants Ranka her powers. :P

Hmmm... who would all the other cast members be? We need to give this some though. :lol:

[raile]

Brera will be the villain, whom Ranka knows is bad--but is just too hot to despise.

[magnuskn]

It should be Magical Zentran Klan. Her dual states just scream "transformation sequence".

[Darthtabby]

You called?

Spoiler for Not Safe for Work Link:

http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/...-convenient_ce

BTW, I think Magical Meltran Klan Klan flows a little better.

[MichiNekoChan]

Open Klan Klan?

In any case, finally got the BF to watch it. I think he enjoyed it thoroughly (he likes to kerfuffle me about Ranka)

I also fixed the problem I had with the subs by just opening the .ASS in notepad and editing it.

*And tinkered with timing on Altos confession scene to Sheryl to make it more ...dramatic*

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Darthtabby

You called?

Spoiler for Not Safe for Work Link:

http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/...-convenient_ce

BTW, I think Magical Meltran Klan Klan flows a little better.

Ha! True enough.

[Yot-chan]

Originally Posted by moncikoma

but i think i want it to be true if sheryl is also appear...maybe as a villian...!
a witch! that would be cool!

YAWWWWWNNNN... Been there, done that.

[BetoJR]

You guys are weird.

[karice67]

Originally Posted by MichiNekoChan

*And tinkered with timing on Altos confession scene to Sheryl to make it more ...dramatic*

oooh...what did you do?


=====

And alright, fine , exam over, so here's the next part of the director interview...
In case anyone missed it, here's part 1...

Spoiler for length:

At the climax, Alto was trying to tell Sheryl something, wasn’t he?

He might have said “Ai…Ai-kun”, you know (laughs).

Hu———h?

What Alto said – I’ll leave that to your imagination. What is certain is that he was conveying his feelings clearly to Sheryl.

In the last scene, the Vajra folded out and went on a journey somewhere, didn’t they?

That’s basically what happened. What isn’t clear is whether Ai-kun left with them or not.

Do you see this as a happy end? Or as a bad end?

To me, I don’t think about it in the B&W manner of whether it was a happy end or a bad one. Because I think that it’s precisely this kind of thinking, about what is good and what is bad, that gives rise to the various problems and issues that we see in modern society. [Back to this film], rather than [something good or bad], I wanted to end in a way where the protagonists are able to take [another] step forward.

Have you looked at fan reactions since the movie was released?

At the event on the opening day, when I was walking around Ikebukuro’s Nanja Town, I was really glad when fans came up to me to talk about it. Their views on the ending of the (love) triangle were generally what I’d expected, but what they thought had happened to Alto was rather surprising. Well, we’ve gotten a range of different opinions from everyone. But I think that would have been the case no matter what we decided upon. It really was a difficult decision to make.

p.s. There is another discussion about the ending in the ‘Special Talk’ [Zadankai] between Kawamori, Nakamura, Nakajima and Endo, which is a special on the BD (from 4:15~). Basically, they talk about how

• the creative team debated about whether they should make it really unclear whether they managed to fold out or not
• but if you actually look at the cut alone, it’s quite clear that they did
• Alto can now communicate with the Queen, so he should be ok…but also, Ai-kun saving Sheryl and Ozma was actually a hint/foreshadowing that Alto would be fine, because the Queen would know that he couldn’t survive in the vacuum of space.
• The exchange that follows is quite amusing, and leads to Nakamura saying that perhaps Alto made some kind of contract with the Queen when they were communicating in that ‘eye-contact’ scene => (Kawamori) Although if it goes a bit too far, and he falls in love with the Queen, that’ll be rather bad…it’s no longer a [love] triangle, but a [love] quadrangle…[so it was actually Kawamori, not Nakamura, who brought up the possibility of a love quadrangle!] => (Endo) I think that…that’s a love that can never be requited…

And that's probably the last of Kawamori's comments on the ending, at least from me for the time being...

[magnuskn]

Thanks for your work, karice.

I notice Kawamori fled into a convoluted non-answer when asked about what kind of ending it was.

[MichiNekoChan]

Originally Posted by karice67

oooh...what did you do?

I just mainly spaced it out a bit more (so people who actually don't know what happens in the movie (IE - My BF) they just hang on edge a bit more.)

Now it just looks like:

Sheryl,
this might be late...
but, I
lo-

Heres he actual timing from my copy in case people wanna "see" how it looks

Spoiler for Just copied/pasta form the .ass:

Dialogue: 0,1:46:04.58,1:46:06.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,S heryl,
Dialogue: 0,1:46:06.58,1:46:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,t his might be late...
Dialogue: 0,1:46:10.58,1:46:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,b ut, I
Dialogue: 0,1:46:14.05,1:46:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,l o-

EDIT: dunno why its giving funny spaces in the spoiler post, but yea... ignore that.

[BaKaBaKaOtaKu]

I watched it finally!! It's just too awesome..and i'm still speechless.. i'll just get back to give my proper impression of the film.. but i kinda teared up you know. cna't help it. LOL

[Yot-chan]

Okay, I can take a "difference of opinion"... but this is F*CKIN' WAR!

http://www.robotechx.com/forums/43-m...start=10#17721

Will you all stand for some ROBOTECH FANBOY saying that Macross F is nothing but crickets chirping...? 'Cause I won't!

[Dash_Hunter]

Originally Posted by Yot-chan

Okay, I can take a "difference of opinion"... but this is F*CKIN' WAR!

http://www.robotechx.com/forums/43-m...start=10#17721

Will you all stand for some ROBOTECH FANBOY saying that Macross F is nothing but crickets chirping...? 'Cause I won't!

Well they really know how crickets chirping sound, it's the only thing they've been hearing from Robotech in years, so maybe they are confusing Macross and Robotech again.

Wait, did they delete the posts? I refreshed the page and now I can't find them.
Maybe they were afraid to start a war against you Yot-chan

[Falcor]

Looks like the forum moderator there stepped in before the flame wars could begin.

However, after reading through that thread, it makes me rather curious about this Pacific Rim movie... 1st I've ever heard of it. Sounds as if the Robotech fanboys are really wanting it to be RT in disguise. Can't really blame them, since we have Macross Frontier while they have... nothing.

[Yot-chan]

Originally Posted by Dash_Hunter

Well they really know how crickets chirping sound, it's the only thing they've been hearing from Robotech in years, so maybe they are confusing Macross and Robotech again.

Wait, did they delete the posts? I refreshed the page and now I can't find them.
Maybe they were afraid to start a war against you Yot-chan

Yeah, they moved the posts. Here's the new location:

http://www.robotechx.com/forums/32-m...start=30#17721

And MaverickLSC can't really start a war on me, since Dougbendo's been waging one on me for YEARS. Too bad the only thing he can do is call me "gay"...