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Laith · 2012-01-07, 07:32

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Originally Posted by Sunder the Gold

I saw you snag SOMETHING with Chain Anchor and zip along like a hookshot, but it wasn't Kyrie. Did you snag an invisible wall, or were you just able to move despite having missed?

Also, Yuuno showed a different pre-fight animation this time. I wonder why? Is it random?

I think it was an invisible wall not sure though.

And the animations at the beginning are random, yeah.

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Yuuno versus Vita?

Oh god ferret meets hammer Kk then.

Oh yeah, Einhardt alternate outfit is her barrier jacket with Vivio's colors and Vivio's is hers with Einhart's. Something I noticed.

Akiyoshi · 2012-01-07, 12:16

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Originally Posted by Laith

Oh yeah, Einhardt alternate outfit is her barrier jacket with Vivio's colors and Vivio's is hers with Einhart's. Something I noticed.

D'awww... Nanoha and Fate exchanged ribbons. Vivio and Einhart exchanged jacket colors xD!

Sunder the Gold · 2012-01-07, 12:20

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Originally Posted by Key Board

Yuuno has an A rank composite license, not aerial

Yet he engages in aerial combat with the best of them. Literally.

It's possible that his license is not accurately reflective of his capability.

Also "License" has always struck me as a poor word to use, since it's not like anyone can take away your magic if you don't legally qualify for it. The tests aren't about permission, it's about the government keeping track of how powerful you really are.

But how do they know when people deliberately underperform or hold back?

Akiyoshi · 2012-01-07, 12:51

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Originally Posted by Sunder the Gold

But how do they know when people deliberately underperform or hold back?

A good point, it was estated by the Aces and Wolkenritters alike that the ranking system is not entirely unreliable as the exams are voluntary for some people.

It has it's uses.tough. A TSAB cadet must take exams and raise it's rank in order to be allowed into higher groups, better equipement and more dangerous missions, they rank they posses guarantee the TSAB that said cadet is a person who have worked hard and have enough discipline to take the responsibility that comes with a promotion and enough power/skill to do it's job without screweing up, injuring himself or other in the line of duty.

Martial arts tournament also can use this to guarantee safer fights between mages of similar level.

To the general public or non-active mages like Yuuno is merely an aestethical thing, probably Yuuno is satisfied with the choices his current rank allows him to have("A" is pretty good rank by Mid-Childa santards, we can call Yuuno a fully accomplished mage at that level). Mages can be comfortable with a humble rank for concealment purpouses and becoming "Almighty Janitors" just like Mrs. Fern Corrado who being a AA-ranker curbstomped AAA's Fate and Nanoha. Or simply not caring about trank at all like "S -" Signum fighting "S +" Nanoha to a standstill.

Sunder the Gold · 2012-01-07, 16:47

On a seperate note, if you choose Nanoha instead of Yuuno to fight Stern, does Stern say that she intends to kill her?

Do the two of them say anything to each other that they don't communicate just as well after Yuuno's win, if you choose Yuuno?

See, I'm sure we can all agree that Fate is intended to be the one who fights Linith, but they included Arf as an option because they could.

It's less clear whether or not Yuuno is the one assumed by default to fight and defeat Stern.

Key Board · 2012-01-07, 18:06

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Originally Posted by Sunder the Gold

Yet he engages in aerial combat with the best of them. Literally.

It's possible that his license is not accurately reflective of his capability.

That's the point.

License is not an absolute powerlevel measure.

It means he did not take or did not pass the aerial mage exam. Either because he didn't want to, didn't have the skill to make it very high as an aerial mage (also see Hayate), or most likely, because he chose to pursue a career as a librarian.

Just respect his decision. Not all archaeologist want to be Indiana Jones

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Also "License" has always struck me as a poor word to use, since it's not like anyone can take away your magic if you don't legally qualify for it. The tests aren't about permission, it's about the government keeping track of how powerful you really are.

But how do they know when people deliberately underperform or hold back?

As Tsuzuki said, "licenses are like Karate belts". It's not an absolute de facto power level measurement, but higher ranks get more privileges.

Getting a job is all about credentials (and connections)

Would a B grade aerial mage get a job as instructor to the air forces?

I guess you could hold back your on your performance during exams, and some people have done it in the real world to avoid military drafts. But in Nanoha's context, why should you hold back?

Once again, let's remember Hayate. The reason why she aimed for an SS+ credentials was because she was aiming for admiralty.

Sunder the Gold · 2012-01-07, 18:11

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Originally Posted by Key Board

Just respect his decision. Not all archaeologist want to be Indiana Jones

When the Arc of the Covenant gets up on a pair of legs and threatens to march across the world, annihilating any city that it finds, Indiana Jones can then decide whether or not he wants to be Yuuno Scrya, by stepping right in front of its path.

I respect his decision to become a librarian. It's what he needs to do, to be true to himself.

It's not ALL he needs to do, to remain true to himself.

Key Board · 2012-01-07, 18:23

Well, it just strikes me that he's the kind of person like Hayate who is more comfortable at the back lines.

And yes, I know that has made some people upset too.

Betrayed expectations always upsets part of the fandom, but I've learned to accept that not all characters in my favorite show will develop according to my planned skill-set.

In the end, it's not my DnD session. Someone else is playing the character for me

As much as want character xxx to be a dual wielding rogue, in the end I am not in control and have learned to manage my expectations from that.

FlameSparkZ · 2012-01-07, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Laith

Oh god ferret meets hammer Kk then.

He did pretty well in canon, even if it wasn't a full battle

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Originally Posted by Laith

Oh yeah, Einhardt alternate outfit is her barrier jacket with Vivio's colors and Vivio's is hers with Einhart's. Something I noticed.

Yeah, noticed that in the screeshots/page scans. Looks good on them, as do other 2P outfits, like Stern's which adds more "fire" to her theme

MeisterBabylon · 2012-01-07, 19:35

Is it possible for someone to give me a summary of all the plot lines and characters who appear in GoD? I'm trying to wrap my head around U-D, and that's before I consider the time travellers.

Doing fact checks for my fic basically.

Nanya01 · 2012-01-07, 19:50

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Is it possible for someone to give me a summary of all the plot lines and characters who appear in GoD? I'm trying to wrap my head around U-D, and that's before I consider the time travellers.

Doing fact checks for my fic basically.

U-D (Here-by called Yuri) is, in effect, the thing that the Book of Darkness was sealing away...

To use Marvel as a comparison here...

Think of Reinforce and the Wolkenritter as the Heralds of Galactus...

The Darkness of the Book of Darkness is Galactus itself...

And Yuri-chan is the thing that Galactus was holding back.

Not sure, but I think that the Materials and Yuri-chan are basically the same being... Possibly Reinforce was part of that as well.

ZeroIchiNi · 2012-01-07, 20:01

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Is it possible for someone to give me a summary of all the plot lines and characters who appear in GoD? I'm trying to wrap my head around U-D, and that's before I consider the time travellers.

Doing fact checks for my fic basically.

rxrx · 2012-01-07, 20:27

Note to all, no one wants to kill anyone. Levi is out to play and is more like a kid sister and how a 9 year old would act to Fate, Stern just wants a good fight and Diarche wants freedom for her crew as they were all stuck in suspension for a very long time. Heck, even Yuri did not want to kill or destroy anything but she has no command over her power. If you want a comparison, she is like Touma when he first reacted. Full conciousness but not able to control themselves and thus she just wants to be left alone.

I bet it disappoints some, but the materials are kind of friendly and not evil at all. They are just another bunch of victims of the Ancient Belka nutjobs like the Wolken and Rein so there.

MeisterBabylon · 2012-01-07, 20:46

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Originally Posted by Nanya01

U-D (Here-by called Yuri) is, in effect, the thing that the Book of Darkness was sealing away...

To use Marvel as a comparison here...

Think of Reinforce and the Wolkenritter as the Heralds of Galactus...

The Darkness of the Book of Darkness is Galactus itself...

And Yuri-chan is the thing that Galactus was holding back.

Not sure, but I think that the Materials and Yuri-chan are basically the same being... Possibly Reinforce was part of that as well.

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*scribbles LOTS of notes*

And I gain a surprise boss character too!

Key Board · 2012-01-07, 20:52

I made this image to explain things.

I hope it helps

itanshi1 · 2012-01-07, 21:39

Eh? Is there a character we lack images for?

Ah, I see, technically we do then

Hayate22 · 2012-01-07, 23:30

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Originally Posted by rxrx

Note to all, no one wants to kill anyone. Levi is out to play and is more like a kid sister and how a 9 year old would act to Fate, Stern just wants a good fight and Diarche wants freedom for her crew as they were all stuck in suspension for a very long time. Heck, even Yuri did not want to kill or destroy anything but she has no command over her power. If you want a comparison, she is like Touma when he first reacted. Full conciousness but not able to control themselves and thus she just wants to be left alone.

I bet it disappoints some, but the materials are kind of friendly and not evil at all. They are just another bunch of victims of the Ancient Belka nutjobs like the Wolken and Rein so there.

This right here is the basic key aspect of both the A's anime storyline and the 2 A's psp games. If one does not play both games and understand the background of both games, you will not get the whole story entirely. No one in this part of the Nanoha series wants to kill any one or destroy anything. Kinda tricky and sneaky of Bandai-Namco to make a 2 part game series like this. Along with the writers of this 2 part story. EVIL XD.

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I made this image to explain things.

I hope it helps

This is probably by far the best to date timeline for the Examia and Yami no Sho. Since we will probably never get a clear understanding of some things, such as the little derp who corrupted the Yaten no Sho in the first place.

Nanya01 · 2012-01-07, 23:34

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This is probably by far the best to date timeline for the Examia and Yami no Sho. Since we will probably never get a clear understanding of some things, such as the little derp who corrupted the Yaten no Sho in the first place.

Somewhere in the multiverse, an evil old rat is snickering, until a Dragon hits him in the head and makes him get back to work.

Hayate22 · 2012-01-08, 00:17

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Somewhere in the multiverse, an evil old rat is snickering, until a Dragon hits him in the head and makes him get back to work.

Yes, same old rat who is probably hiding out in Bandai-Namco right now.

Gah, survival in this game is interesting. First round of characters 23 in total, they are easy like heck. Second round, difficulty is ramped up and Nanoha by far is one of the hardest ones. Now third round, the difficulty is about the same and they all have augmentations. Fourth round...no idea....

MeisterBabylon · 2012-01-08, 00:18

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Somewhere in the multiverse, an evil old rat is snickering, until a Dragon hits him in the head and makes him get back to work.

Now we add Keroko Georashi to this mix, and I have the last story to my quadrilogy.

2012-01-07, 18:23	Link #1648
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	Well, it just strikes me that he's the kind of person like Hayate who is more comfortable at the back lines. And yes, I know that has made some people upset too. Betrayed expectations always upsets part of the fandom, but I've learned to accept that not all characters in my favorite show will develop according to my planned skill-set. In the end, it's not my DnD session. Someone else is playing the character for me As much as want character xxx to be a dual wielding rogue, in the end I am not in control and have learned to manage my expectations from that. __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

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Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	I made this image to explain things. I hope it helps __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

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Sunder the Gold Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	On a seperate note, if you choose Nanoha instead of Yuuno to fight Stern, does Stern say that she intends to kill her? Do the two of them say anything to each other that they don't communicate just as well after Yuuno's win, if you choose Yuuno? See, I'm sure we can all agree that Fate is intended to be the one who fights Linith, but they included Arf as an option because they could. It's less clear whether or not Yuuno is the one assumed by default to fight and defeat Stern.

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rxrx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Note to all, no one wants to kill anyone. Levi is out to play and is more like a kid sister and how a 9 year old would act to Fate, Stern just wants a good fight and Diarche wants freedom for her crew as they were all stuck in suspension for a very long time. Heck, even Yuri did not want to kill or destroy anything but she has no command over her power. If you want a comparison, she is like Touma when he first reacted. Full conciousness but not able to control themselves and thus she just wants to be left alone. I bet it disappoints some, but the materials are kind of friendly and not evil at all. They are just another bunch of victims of the Ancient Belka nutjobs like the Wolken and Rein so there.