Muv-Luv Franchise - Game & General Discussion

[delorean2200]

Yeah to bad Alter Fable never was translated... we could have all used some therapy after Alternative...

[gbatemper]

Originally Posted by delorean2200

Yeah to bad Alter Fable never was translated... we could have all used some therapy after Alternative...

No, Altered Fable also induces rage.
It's pretty good though, I read it (Not really I can only semi read Japanese, I'm fluent conversationally so I more listened to it).

That goddam volleyball game. I spent countless nights trying to figure out how it works, and I even had my one of my friends Read the Japanese instructions for me and we both didn't know what the hell it meant. Also the sled/ski game is very RAGE INDUCING. Doesn't help that the win in a volleyball game is required for a good ending.

[Sendou]

Altered Fable is quite funny so it was worth the trouble. Scars from Alternative slowly healed thanks to its outrageous humor.

I concur about the games though. I thought the sled game was the end of it, but they just had to include the volleyball game. I love the storm vanguard theme, but damn, I detest playing such minigames with horrible mechanics even with my favorite track playing in the background.

[delorean2200]

Can you give instructions for the mini games then ? i'm thinking of playing Altered Fable even if i have to use some translator... but it seems without some explanation of those minigames i'll be lost...

[gbatemper]

Originally Posted by delorean2200

Can you give instructions for the mini games then ? i'm thinking of playing Altered Fable even if i have to use some translator... but it seems without some explanation of those minigames i'll be lost...

I gave up and used a save file from sagaoz.

>The sex was all a dream bad end

[gbatemper]

Originally Posted by Sendou

Altered Fable is quite funny so it was worth the trouble. Scars from Alternative slowly healed thanks to its outrageous humor.

I concur about the games though. I thought the sled game was the end of it, but they just had to include the volleyball game. I love the storm vanguard theme, but damn, I detest playing such minigames with horrible mechanics even with my favorite track playing in the background.

true. nice to see another person who actually is fluent and read altered fable.

[grevierr]

Originally Posted by gbatemper

No, Altered Fable also induces rage.
It's pretty good though, I read it (Not really I can only semi read Japanese, I'm fluent conversationally so I more listened to it).

That goddam volleyball game. I spent countless nights trying to figure out how it works, and I even had my one of my friends Read the Japanese instructions for me and we both didn't know what the hell it meant. Also the sled/ski game is very RAGE INDUCING. Doesn't help that the win in a volleyball game is required for a good ending.

Whats the problem? I lost both and got endings anyway. I used machine translation all the way.

Spoiler for tag:

The key flags are the snow hut, and who you visit at the huts. There is a guide for the series of flags to raise for the endings. Nothing to do with the games.

Loved the way everyone comes back in for one last gathering though. And the 'ball game' got me rolling in stitches. Only other side-story this interesting was the AyuMayu alternative... which i don't really want to remember...

[Sendou]

Originally Posted by delorean2200

Can you give instructions for the mini games then ? i'm thinking of playing Altered Fable even if i have to use some translator... but it seems without some explanation of those minigames i'll be lost...

sled ski is easy to figure out, but hard to control considering a slight mistake in pressing the side keys can jeopardize your attempt to change direction. I think it was w, a , s, d for directions... or was it the arrow keys? It's been a long time since I played it.

Originally Posted by gbatemper

I gave up and used a save file from sagaoz.

>The sex was all a dream bad end

Dream, but it showed Takeru which girl he's most conscious of. Didn't Mana and Maya also mentioned that the choices he made in that matrix-like world is not entirely farfetched since he would've done the same in the real world?

Also, you mentioned good ending but requires winning the volleyball game?

ARE YOU SERIOUS? ITS POSSIBLE TO WIN? Whoever is capable of such things deserves a medal.

[grevierr]

Originally Posted by Sendou

Also, you mentioned good ending but requires winning the volleyball game?

ARE YOU SERIOUS? ITS POSSIBLE TO WIN? Whoever is capable of such things deserves a medal.

Try playing against Mitsuki and Haruka... those were the hardest players. And you only need to use your mouse to play the volleyball game, if i remember... there was a trick to it...

I think Mana was saying the dream was linked to whoever was most on his mind then. So if you followed the guide for the hut interactions, you can choose your 'dream', regardless of the game.

Spoiler for tag:

And i just remembered, my avatar is somewhat linked to the Marimo ending, lolz. replace it with Takeru.

[Sendou]

How do you get Marimo's ending? I got her scene where Yuuko tested Takeru's commitment for Marimo, but I ended up getting Kasumi's ending instead. I don't know where I went wrong.

Spoiler for AF: Marimo Beach Scene:

I was really shocked when Yuuko revealed that Marimo is actually attracted to her own student. Considering Marimo always compares Hibiki to Takeru in TDA, it makes me wonder if she developed strong affections for her student in the other world as well.

[grevierr]

Originally Posted by Sendou

How do you get Marimo's ending? I got her scene where Yuuko tested Takeru's commitment for Marimo, but I ended up getting Kasumi's ending instead. I don't know where I went wrong.

Spoiler for tag:

P.S.
I was really shocked when Yuuko revealed that Marimo is actually attracted to her own student. Considering Marimo always compares Hibiki to Takeru in TDA, it makes me wonder if she developed strong affections for her student in the other world as well.

Err... Its Takeru's mind... so nothing to do with the real world.

Spoiler for tag:

Only Mad Dog Marimo ending for ML:E was the other scene.

For marimo end, you need to check the jap wiki. I'll see if i can find the link once i'm back from work. Its the series of places visited at the last part.

[Sendou]

Originally Posted by grevierr

Err... Its Takeru's mind... so nothing to do with the real world.

Spoiler for tag:

Only Mad Dog Marimo ending for ML:E was the other scene.

For marimo end, you need to check the jap wiki. I'll see if i can find the link once i'm back from work. Its the series of places visited at the last part.

Spoiler for AF:

Umm... In Meiya's "date" scene where she took Takeru to one of Mitsurugi Enterprise's hidden facility underground, that information was true in the real world. When Takeru mentioned it to Maya, and Mana in response to their question about what he experienced during the entire ordeal, the two Tsukuyomis were surprised since he even found about such things despite not receiving the information from any of the characters in the real world.

I don't know about the other readers, but I find it difficult to fully deny the possibility of Marimo falling for her student in the real world as well.

Really? It'd be great if you could. Been trying to get her ending but failed so many times.

[grevierr]

Originally Posted by Sendou

Spoiler for tag:

Umm... In Meiya's "romance" scene where she took Takeru to one of Mitsurugi enterprises hidden facility underground, that information was true in the real world. When Takeru mentioned it to Maya, and Mana in response to their question about what he experienced during the entire ordeal. The two Tsukuyomis were surprised since he even found about such things despite not receiving the information from any of the characters in the real world.

Really? It'd be great if you could. Been trying to get her ending but failed so many times

.

Spoiler for tag:

Yes, but there was no Super Robots there, wasn't it... So some interference from the quantum universe, and the rest from his mind. Its a mini version of the dimension portal Yoko created in MLA to send him to AU anyway, so that might actually be a parallel world. Do think too much bout it...

Found a guide, http://translate.google.com/translat...wikidb.info%2F

[Sendou]

Spoiler for AF:

^ Yeah, there wasn't, but some information were true nonetheless regardless of how small it is. I can hope even if its a small chance, no? Oh come on, can't you see how pathetic I am? Let me dream please. lol. j/k

Another parallel universe, huh? I can't say I dislike it.

Thanks for the guide. Will use it soon.

[grevierr]

Originally Posted by Sendou

Spoiler for AF:

^ Yeah, there wasn't, but some information were true nonetheless regardless of how small it is. I can hope even if its a small chance, no? Oh come on, can't you see how pathetic I am? Let me dream please. lol. j/k

Another parallel universe, huh? I can't say I dislike it.

Thanks for the guide. Will use it soon.

You're welcome

Try AyuMayu Alternative next. Its got more Lolz and insanity than the rest... Its the true difference between super robots and real robots...

[Silvance]

Seems like the vn for Total Eclipse will be for the consoles... I hope there will be a PC version someday...

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/06/26...f-luv-for-ps3/

I'm curious whether it will come with a figma like the 360 release. If it turns out to be Yui, then I'm afraid I'll have to give in, and make my wallet sad once again.

[grevierr]

Originally Posted by Silvance

Seems like the vn for Total Eclipse will be for the consoles... I hope there will be a PC version someday...

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/06/26...f-luv-for-ps3/

I'm curious whether it will come with a figma like the 360 release. If it turns out to be Yui, then I'm afraid I'll have to give in, and make my wallet sad once again.

LUV FOR MUV LUV!

I'm just hoping they release some english language ver of the VNs someday. TE coming to PC is more or less an given, if they have it for consoles. After all, they are releasing the ML trilogy for the PC for the 4th time. Windows 7 ver.

Too bad rUGP v6.0 is not compatible with any text hooker currently. Anyone know if they worked around it yet?

[Silvance]

Haven't heard of anyone finding the /h code for v6 yet.

But do you even need that? From your posts, it seems your Japanese is fluent enough to get past the language and technical barriers for the novels.

As for the win7 release, I' praying they'll use new sprites for it. The new look of the Shiranui and Raptor in TDA were just spectacular above all reasons. Just thinking how they'll improve those things even more just makes feel ecstatic. Any word whether it'll be all Ages? I'm starting to miss the pointy mountains after going through Chronicles 3.

[gbatemper]

Originally Posted by Silvance

Haven't heard of anyone finding the /h code for v6 yet.

But do you even need that? From your posts, it seems your Japanese is fluent enough to get past the language and technical barriers for the novels.

As for the win7 release, I' praying they'll use new sprites for it. The new look of the Shiranui and Raptor in TDA were just spectacular above all reasons. Just thinking how they'll improve those things even more just makes feel ecstatic. Any word whether it'll be all Ages? I'm starting to miss the pointy mountains after going through Chronicles 3.

The novels are awfully boring.
It's mostly like a typical mecha LN, except for the occasional info dumps on muv-luv world history or tsf capabilities, in addition to some internal politics mixed in. The rest is either perverted humor with Yuuya being the mature one while his comrades fool around, Moe moments, etc. The manga is better, it's less boring, but it's stuck on volume 3 after getting a new artist.

Spoiler:

Oh, and Yuuya has a obnoxious problem of immediatly saying he is not Japanese when questioned and he once hit a fellow soldier (who was also Japanese American) for asking "your Japanese too, right?". He get's rid of it though. Kriska is overprotective of Inia and Yuuya pretty much gives her some emotional comfort, but she gets a little "too" close. Tsundere. Yui is also a tsundere, Yuuya's fellow comrades knows Yui likes him pretty much. Yuuya's ignorance to it is sometimes made as a joke, and Yui is sometimes deeply embarrassed by Yuuya's ignorant remarks.

[Malkuth]

So asking here too. Is there a story synopsis for Alternative? I could only find one for Extra/Unlimited. I remember reading somewhere years ago about some dark plotlines and grim deaths

Also what's the deal with alternative 1-5

And Total Eclipse (paper) novels share only the setting, but not the characters with Alternative and Extra/Unlimited, right?