2012-06-27, 08:06 | Link #23 |
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^ Well Tsunade just got the Dan-loves-you-plot-shield
Though it is questionable how long that will hold considering right now she is the only one who can fight him for a brief time considering she got her chakra back and the other Kages are pretty much empty. - So it might be her trying to protect the Kages till either Naruto or Sasuske arrive? I dunno, somehow this little seal trick has a smell of shallowness, Madara haxing himself ok, was to be expected I guess, but did it have to be another asspull? Rinnegan would have been more believable ?
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2012-06-27, 08:15 | Link #24 |
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It still doesn't make total sense.
A) If Madara knew about this ability to cancel Edo, then maybe he tried to do this himself and get someone to summon him but the plan was abandoned? B) Why couldn't Tobi take over the summons and keep the beasts (although they're not gone yet) C) How in the world did Tobi want to start the Ninja War anyway, by himself? D) How could Itachi not know? E) THE ONLY REASON Itachi did this was BECAUSE of Madara, that's when he said 'this is bad' and he had to be quick. The other summons were not as strong and being taken care of, Zetsus were fodder. So ITACHI FAILED F) WTF? I was hoping Madara would find a way, but not this way...but maybe Kishi has an explanation - like Madara was defeated by the first, planned to kill himself and be resummoned to have infinite chakra and ability, but the summoner abandoned that plan or got stopped...and now Kabuto unknowingly did it anyway. Or...was there a special sacrifice for Madara? What if it was YAMOTO! That will truly piss Naruto off. G) Still waiting for Anko and Kabuto scene...what's going to happen there and will Sas learned that Itachi failed |
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2012-06-27, 08:31 | Link #26 |
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^eh I didn't say she'll die - I said she got the love-you-live-on plotshield - that admittedly puts her in a bad spot as she has to protect the others - but- oh well screw logic and look at it like this: Kishi didn't even "kill" Madara - so you expect him to kill the Kages?
I wish there'd be some seriousness here but people seem to refuse to die, such are the facts ... Or to phrase it yet differently, if he'd kill her she would have died now. How lame is it to bring her back via Dan only to kill her 2 chaps later after all? That would be a trollish end for her. Nah, she just got a re-power up to show Madara how the first's granddaughter can live up to her family fame I fear ...
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2012-06-27, 08:38 | Link #28 |
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It was expected that Edo-Madara would somehow survive the cancellation of Edo Tensei. Next chapter, Tsunade (with her chakra restored) busts out some new techs, and then eventually Oonoki sacrifices himself so that the kages can defeat Madara.
Interesting that Madara seems to know the ins and outs of Edo Tensei and yet Tobi had to learn about it from Kabuto. Maybe Madara only knew how to release Edo Tensei but never knew how to perform it? No, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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2012-06-27, 08:47 | Link #29 | |
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kishi often defies logic. he placed tsunade under a coma for a long time, teased us with the possibility that kakashi would take the hokage mantle in her stead, only to have her wake up the minute it has been decided that kakashi should take her place. what was the logic in putting her in a coma in the first place? what was the purpose? it would have been more logical if she had died since she used up all her chakra healing the wounded of konoha during that pain invasion. she would have gotten a heroic death too. oh well...
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2012-06-27, 09:14 | Link #31 | |
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after some further consideration I have come up with the following in-depth prediction for the next three chapters
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2012-06-27, 09:36 | Link #33 |
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Madara could only know because Tobi was told by Kabuto how to end the technique. And, with a little help from a hidden Zetsu, Tobi could have learned the seals from Kabuto (after his fight with Itachi), and relayed that info to Madara who either knew ahead of time that a zombie could free itself, or simply hypothesized the ability (based on rather simple logic) and gambled on the outcome.
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2012-06-27, 09:48 | Link #35 |
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as for Madara knowing Edo Tensei and Tobi not - we do know he lived on after the battle with Harashima so there certainly is a chance he did learn it from observing the second Hokage himself? As for not telling Tobi, there is no logic flaw in that, he would NOT have told him to prevent precisely the situation he now is in from happening, namely Tobi trying to use him as a puppet and thus forcing him to go zombie permanently - he said it himself, he had "no other choice" - I expect him to now be stuck with this Edo Tensei body which in all likelihood was NOT the plan... If you want to live forever and rule thew world it is rather inconvenient to be forced to rely on somebody rezzing you back from death so you can achieve your goal. Ultimately Tobi probably was a tool to Madara, there must be something more as he trusted him to rinnegan-rezz him one day but that does not mean he trusts him all the way - why should he dish out such knowledge all carefree? Nah, he might have known from some time ago and just kept it to himself, to me the notion of Zetsu kindly sticking it to him sounds a bit too convenient ...
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2012-06-27, 10:03 | Link #36 |
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Interesting Chapter... but I don't but as for me, I'm kinda getting tired of Madara, how long will the fight Drag on, he keeps topping himself in uberness. he is slowly becoming a "Aizen" while it is not fun to see the heroes beat their foe easily. it also sucks to see them beat a person that is impossible to defeat, it will seem that much more of an asspull.
Think about about how powerful madara as proven he is, shounen laws dictate by the time he fights sasuke/ and or naruto. he will be even more powerful than that. these guys are already reshaping landscape, can't get more powerful than that unless we get into planet destroyer lvls, and since we haven't seen any alien ninjas....yet... on another note, I would have liked for dan to kiss "granny" on forehead instead. imo would have been more touching... OK chapter I guess
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2012-06-27, 10:08 | Link #37 | |
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2012-06-27, 10:21 | Link #39 | |
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2012-06-27, 10:22 | Link #40 |
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Many people say that Edo-Madara is overpowered and Kishi went too far, but let's face the arguments, he was the strongest Uhicha world ever known. We all know about Hashirama and Madara's fight over the valey of the end, but we do not know how EPIC that battle was. (Moreover we may discover more on that historical event since Madara is staying) And as a consequence of Kabuto's cautionless usage of Edo Jutsu, the risk of having summoned being immortal and with limitless chakra and uncontrolled mind if he breaks out is a equivalent risk according to the Forbidden Jutsu of the Ressurection. I think there is nothing wrong about that.
As a result Madara is immortal, so that's the risk of using edo tensei. if u summon someone stronger than u and who know the seal he can be here forever For me it's just mind-blowing turning out. This maybe even better ressurection than Tobi wanted to do with the rinnegan. I would like to see Sasuke arriving in front of Kages and deciding to face Madara, it would be Epic to see these two fighting , but unless Sasuke got some new techs from Itatchi, he does not have any chances agains Madara. Last edited by Raph; 2012-06-27 at 12:45. |
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