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Ray · 2012-07-19, 16:30

Wouldn't it be 4 if we count DEX?

STR, DEX, LUK, AGI. Yeah. I honestly don't see why something like VIT wouldn't exist..

Xellos-_^ · 2012-07-19, 16:31

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Originally Posted by Aphrah

Wouldn't it be 4 if we count DEX?

STR, DEX, LUK, AGI. Yeah. I honestly don't see why something like VIT wouldn't exist..

isn't Dex and Agi the same?

Netto Azure · 2012-07-19, 16:34

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

isn't Dex and Agi the same?

Nope, DEX is maneuverability, The chances of you hitting a dodging enemy and hit rate.

AGI is the speed of your attacks, and flee rate I believe.

This is based on my old pRO days and inferences from the novel BTW.

Xellos-_^ · 2012-07-19, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Netto Azure

Nope, DEX is maneuverability, The chances of you hitting a dodging enemy and hit rate.

AGI is the speed of your attacks, and flee rate I believe.

This is based on my old pRO days and inferences from the novel BTW.

i think most jrpgs these days replace dex with evasion rate which is base on Agi.

Ray · 2012-07-19, 16:41

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

i think most jrpgs these days replace dex with evasion rate which is base on Agi.

Honestly? Most JRPGs nowadays don't even both with stats.. well they do.. but you usually can't choose to increase them.

But yeah, evasion rate is based on AGI most of the time.

From what I remember, DEX is usually the main stat required for dual-wielding.

Xellos-_^ · 2012-07-19, 16:45

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Originally Posted by Aphrah

Honestly? Most JRPGs nowadays don't even both with stats.. well they do.. but you usually can't choose to increase them.

But yeah, evasion rate is based on AGI most of the time.

From what I remember, DEX is usually the main stat required for dual-wielding.

ok i remember now, that Dex and Dual wielding are for AD&D. The Japanese RPG uses a modify ver which don't included Dex.

Netto Azure · 2012-07-19, 16:45

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

i think most jrpgs these days replace dex with evasion rate which is base on Agi.

Remember, this was initially written in 2002, so the mechanics haven't evolved yet to that point. Heh. XD

Maybe in ALO though.

Xellos-_^ · 2012-07-19, 16:49

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Originally Posted by Netto Azure

Remember, this was initially written in 2002, so the mechanics haven't evolved yet to that point. Heh. XD

Maybe in ALO though.

i am pretty sure JRPGs around then didn't have separate Dex and Agi stats.

Netto Azure · 2012-07-19, 16:59

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

i am pretty sure JRPGs around then didn't have separate Dex and Agi stats.

We're talking about MMORPG's right? Because one of the largest ones back then, Ragnarok Online, HAD separate AGI and DEX stats.

Xellos-_^ · 2012-07-19, 17:04

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Originally Posted by Netto Azure

We're talking about MMORPG's right? Because one of the largest ones back then, Ragnarok Online, HAD separate AGI and DEX stats.

never play MMORPG

was thinking of the traditional JRPG, DW and FF.

Anh_Minh · 2012-07-19, 17:04

In SAO, they use DEX to run fast, so there probably isn't a separate AGI stat.

Though ISTR it's called AGI in GGO.

Adigard · 2012-07-19, 17:16

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Originally Posted by Netto Azure

We're talking about MMORPG's right? Because one of the largest ones back then, Ragnarok Online, HAD separate AGI and DEX stats.

Same with FFXI, which was around back then (STR, DEX, VIT, AGI, INT, MND, CHR).

Although Netto's quote is much more applicable as the author had more of a relationship with RO according to some of the author's notes.

Xellos-_^ · 2012-07-19, 17:17

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

In SAO, they use DEX to run fast, so there probably isn't a separate AGI stat.

Though ISTR it's called AGI in GGO.

i am pretty sure STR and AGI is a separate stat in GGO. That was whole point why the brother of the XaXa wanted to kill the #1 player.

Netto Azure · 2012-07-19, 17:26

Yeah, I remember reading that, but also Materia Edition 7 had this quote also:

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Argo's focus was on speed (AGI), so for her to be unable to shake off the chasing two guys, they must not be ordinary players. Although I didn't see them among the boss raid, their levels should be top-class. In addition, the footprints that went straight along the road toward the west, had exit to the outside through the city gate which was dug out of the outer rim of the crater. These western plains of Urbus was a dangerous map with large buffalo type monsters roaming about. The situation was getting worse. I bit my lips and rushed into the virtual savanna without stopping my feet.

-snip-

I snapped my right fingers in satisfaction as they had helped supplementing my memory. These two were the members of the ridiculously fastest ninja guild which was feared during the β test period. I should make a note about what was feared first. Every member were just like Argo and focused their parameter on agility, they would open the battle as the front row and used their AGI wall to confuse the enemy. When it became dangerous, they would use their dashing power to flee, forcing the monster to target nearby parties instead. No matter how I thought about them, they were clearly a group of evil shinobi.

Anh_Minh · 2012-07-20, 03:53

On another topic... Anyone else thinks the Fluctlight technology's too much? A complete game breaker, really.

I mean, for most white collar jobs... You can spend one real hour inside and do hundreds of hours' worth. As well as have hundreds of hours of R&R in some tropical paradise.

novalysis · 2012-07-20, 04:10

Fluctlight seems to be too radical a technology to be accepted for decades, if Kirito's assessment is correct. It would take years of VR familiarity before fluclight appears on anything more than a limited scale.

Thought I'm trying to imagine Parlimentary and cabinet meetings Exploiting fluclight tech.

Anh_Minh · 2012-07-20, 04:22

Any R&D department using Fluctlight acceleration would gain a huge advantage, which they'll leverage into leaving all others in the dust, who will then be forced to use Fluctlight to keep up.

Netto Azure · 2012-07-20, 05:12

Fluctlight Tech seems to be funded by various countries Military's, so even though Kirito might think it's too much for an official public release, it would more than likely be used by the powers that be.

Although I agree, it would make decision making heck of a lot faster if implemented in Legislatures, Although the problem of something like Inception happening brings me concern. (Oh wow, just noticed nobody has brought that up LOL)

JohnNiles · 2012-07-20, 12:33

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Originally Posted by Netto Azure

Fluctlight Tech seems to be funded by various countries Military's, so even though Kirito might think it's too much for an official public release, it would more than likely be used by the powers that be.

Although I agree, it would make decision making heck of a lot faster if implemented in Legislatures, Although the problem of something like Inception happening brings me concern. (Oh wow, just noticed nobody has brought that up LOL)

It would just make the fillibusters that much more interminable.

I wouldn't mind if they all stayed there, either.

Netto Azure · 2012-07-20, 14:53

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Originally Posted by JohnNiles

It would just make the fillibusters that much more interminable.

I wouldn't mind if they all stayed there, either.

True enough. Although it would probably shield some decision making from lobbying more.

But it still concerns me on how Fluctlight is like messing with the soul itself and all that jazz...it just seems unnatural.

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Ray Garnet Join Date: Dec 2011 Age: 29	Wouldn't it be 4 if we count DEX? STR, DEX, LUK, AGI. Yeah. I honestly don't see why something like VIT wouldn't exist..

2012-07-19, 17:04	Link #1431
Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	In SAO, they use DEX to run fast, so there probably isn't a separate AGI stat. Though ISTR it's called AGI in GGO.

2012-07-20, 03:53	Link #1435
Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	On another topic... Anyone else thinks the Fluctlight technology's too much? A complete game breaker, really. I mean, for most white collar jobs... You can spend one real hour inside and do hundreds of hours' worth. As well as have hundreds of hours of R&R in some tropical paradise.

2012-07-20, 04:10	Link #1436
novalysis Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	Fluctlight seems to be too radical a technology to be accepted for decades, if Kirito's assessment is correct. It would take years of VR familiarity before fluclight appears on anything more than a limited scale. Thought I'm trying to imagine Parlimentary and cabinet meetings Exploiting fluclight tech.

2012-07-20, 04:22	Link #1437
Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	Any R&D department using Fluctlight acceleration would gain a huge advantage, which they'll leverage into leaving all others in the dust, who will then be forced to use Fluctlight to keep up.