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10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 5 | 16.67% | |
9 out of 10: Excellent... | 5 | 16.67% | |
8 out of 10: Very Good... | 5 | 16.67% | |
7 out of 10: Good... | 8 | 26.67% | |
6 out of 10: Average... | 5 | 16.67% | |
5 out of 10: Below Average... | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10: Poor... | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10: Bad... | 1 | 3.33% | |
2 out of 10: Very Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10: Torturous... | 1 | 3.33% | |
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll |
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2012-09-15, 10:06 | Link #141 | |
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It doesn't need to be explicit as it is implied by the thoughts of most of the named Vegan characters Decil, Geera Zoi, Medel Zant, Magicians 8, Zanald and even Zeheart. Ezelcant is even worse as Zeheart stated he is playing god and wants him to replace Ezelcant. He wants to create a superior race from the ashes of humanity. In order to do that he played a demagogue to delude the Vegans they are the Ubermench deserving of paradise, the chosen people, and the Earth Spheroids are the Untermensch who they would either exterminate or turn to slaves. We already saw during the final battle of the second generation Vegans have no qualms of turning colonists to slave labor and human shields. That was Plan A. Failing that they went for Plan B sleeper infiltration. We have several examples in history and even today where entire countries are filled with propaganda of racial superiority and manifest destiny. We don't need to hear Ezelcant say it as we can see the end result among his minions. |
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2012-09-15, 11:07 | Link #142 | |
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yup, sounds like a straw man to me.
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2012-09-15, 11:35 | Link #143 | |
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2012-09-15, 14:15 | Link #144 | |
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Hell in 29 even Elzecant calls them Earth Race declaring its invasion. It's been a derogatory word since the end of generation one. It is the equivalent of calling a native person an Indio in Spanish. A racist insult. I don't know either you don't understand what is talked about here or pretend not to. Having your own definition of superiority out of the context of what is being discussed. It isn't traits we are discussing but ideology. A poisoned form of nationalism. To put it into simple terms. Those with superiority complex like the Vegans are bullies that pick on the weak. Bullies prey on those weaker than them to inflate their own ego. And because they can do so. What have we seen in all generations. Vegan military all target defenseless civilians first. Showing no compassion or regret. |
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2012-09-15, 14:59 | Link #145 | |
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2012-09-15, 20:52 | Link #146 | |
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By the way, while the Vagan leadership condones such atrocities, not every single Vagan soldier agree with them. They are just doing their work, fighting a war in which the massarces of defenseless civilians are like pickpocket incidents - i.e. commonplace. I don't like how you deningrate the entire Vagan military, which composes of human with human feelings just like you are. |
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2012-09-15, 21:05 | Link #147 | |
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2012-09-15, 21:26 | Link #148 | |
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I'm just saying that it is unfair to call the Vagans "evil" on account of the massarces they have performed when such atrocities are part and parcel of many major conflict. |
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2012-09-15, 21:46 | Link #149 | ||
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2012-09-15, 23:39 | Link #150 | |
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Goodness even Revolutionist called you on it once. |
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2012-09-16, 00:26 | Link #151 | |
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It depends on our subjective, biased definition of evil. If you ask me, evil is a term exclusive to peacetime, where the distinction regarding evilness is generally clear, governed by laws and institutions. In times of strife, I don't know anymore. |
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2012-09-16, 01:10 | Link #153 | ||
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