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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 49 | |||
10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 5 | 6.58% | |
9 out of 10: Excellent... | 6 | 7.89% | |
8 out of 10: Very Good... | 5 | 6.58% | |
7 out of 10: Good... | 10 | 13.16% | |
6 out of 10: Average... | 12 | 15.79% | |
5 out of 10: Below Average... | 9 | 11.84% | |
4 out of 10: Poor... | 8 | 10.53% | |
3 out of 10: Bad... | 4 | 5.26% | |
2 out of 10: Very Bad... | 6 | 7.89% | |
1 out of 10: Torturous... | 11 | 14.47% | |
Voters: 76. You may not vote on this poll |
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2012-09-25, 13:55 | Link #181 | |
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2012-09-25, 13:57 | Link #182 | |
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If there was a link, then the link is meant to be a satire. You can make a loose connection between him and the Showa Emperor. I mean, if you really want to. - Tak
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2012-09-25, 14:15 | Link #183 |
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I'm not going to rebuke any of the haters. Most of them have made their points.
As a whole, the story was a victim to bad writing. Either due to time constraints, or just having poor writers. I still liked the series somewhat. I'm not saying it was like 00 quality, but I don't regret watching it. I'm still not ashamed to admit I've been sympathizing with Kio all the way. People may not accept the way he came to want to save everyone, but personally my views are pretty similar to his. No one has the right to deny another's right to live. In the end, everyone was fighting their hardest because they wanted to live. The fact that suddenly an event happened that put everyone on the same side.. Yeah that's pretty much Deus Ex Machina right there. Either way, returning everyone in the solar system to a normal way of life through the combined power of the EXA-DB and the AGE system was a nice touch. Asem....... He had that cool factor. As for deserting the federation to become a pirate. I dunno, he ended up defending both sides which I find commendable for reasons I stated above. Maybe he could've spent some more effort to actually find a way to end the war rather than prolong it though. Flit..... Let me say this first and foremost: He is not wrong for wanting to fight the Vegans. Loved ones did need protecting, after all. Wanting to wipe them all out is going too far though. It's called "petty revenge". You don't just pull a nuke on people who merely wish to live. I'm glad he came around when it mattered. In the end, being a savior was more important than getting revenge. Then there were a whole bunch of other characters who were awesome but didn't nearly get enough screentime. Time constraints mostly. Although this one could've been avoided by not having so damn many of them. As for that final boss guy whose name I don't remember. I don't care about him but it doesn't look like he wasn't meant to be anyone worth caring about. Just some guy who was bred to fight. |
2012-09-25, 14:21 | Link #184 | |
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2012-09-25, 14:28 | Link #185 | ||
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Though in a sense he really would have been screwed without Flit and the Gundam showing up. Without that there would be no way to pretend the Federation could actually hold up against the Vagans.
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2012-09-25, 14:41 | Link #186 | |
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Also, i would like to note that Ezelcant by following his Eden plan made a lot of questionable form the Vagan POV decisions, like deliberately prolonging the war and leaving Earthers chances to survive, and at some point some of his commanders were bound to notice that something was amiss. I can see it earning Ezelcant scorn and label of "weakling" from some of the more bellicose commanders, and coupled with his constant use of cold sleep it's practically an invitation to try sieze the power. Last edited by overloard; 2012-09-25 at 14:55. |
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2012-09-25, 21:06 | Link #188 | ||
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The later generations that did not live immediately post surrender probably thought of war as a kid's fight. They punch each other and call a ceasefire and shake hands. They never could form around their minds their forefathers actions pissed a lot of people off with acts of barbarity that unconditional surrender and defanging their nation was the most humane thing to do for them. Douglas MacArthur was forgiving of Japan even after what was done to his men and those under his protection. Again the later generation misunderstands. You forgive but you never forget. Hence Gundam Age's Understanding Ending is forced without consequences. |
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2012-09-25, 21:38 | Link #189 | ||
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Said big country also possess a horrific record of Facing.Their.Own.History, especially with its founder having more blood on his hands than any other national leader in history. Don't kid me. But I will stop right here, as it would be inappropriate for me to go on. - Tak
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2012-09-26, 01:17 | Link #191 | ||
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The most logical conclusion one can make from that is Ezelcant has a much bigger loyal faction and he also have great support from the non-combatant Vagans. This makes a grab for power extremely difficult because, again, you can't really make a grab for power against someone who is essentially running on the exact same platform of "invade Earth and kill them". Sound bites won't work in this case to win support from anyone. Quote:
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2012-09-26, 02:10 | Link #193 | |
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2012-09-26, 02:35 | Link #195 | |
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The technology to terraform Mars was likely turned to Lost Technology due to the Technos Taboo the Silver Chalice Treaty implemented. If so the answer to Mars Rays or partial answer has always been in the EXA-DB. 80 years before Ezelcant found the EXA-DB asteroid's location and hacked its database. But they didn't get all of it as Sid found out. |
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2012-09-26, 03:12 | Link #196 |
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It'd still be a planet full of life and without Mars Rays. Who cares about a bit of cosmetic damage? (And of course, I wasn't truly serious. Dropping smaller rocks on the Fed's industrial centers would work just as well to secure victory.)
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2012-09-26, 06:23 | Link #198 | ||
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The main problem with Ezelcant holding power is that he doesn't appear to actually have loyal faction. There are no Nobles/Aristocracy/Upper classes who benefit from his rule and therefore provide him their support, while civilians are easily influenced and their support doesn't mean much. It's just a single man who somehow managed to subjugate/inspire loyalty to the whole nation. On top of that, he spends years (if not decades) away from politics, instead prolonging his life via cold sleep, yet every time he awakens Vagans continue to happily do his bidding despite the fact there is highly ambitious and arrogant men amongst them who realistically wouldn't be too inclined to obey someone like Ezelcant. And no, i don't agree that because Vagans sitting on the time bomb they would be afraid of infighting. Their situation is dire, but it's not that dire. They already have been living there for like 200 years, and most likely can live at least 200 more if need be, of course it's not getting better , but I think realistically there still should be enough contenders for the position of Vagan leader, even if they know that power struggle will somehow hamper their military advance on Earth. Quote:
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2012-09-26, 06:54 | Link #200 |
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They waited 50 years for Ezelcant to even begin a serious effort. They could have waited a few years for the dust to settle. Heck, they could have done that waiting in colonies in the Earth Sphere, away from the Mars Rays. It's not like displacing a large population wouldn't have taken time anyway.
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