2012-10-08, 15:44 | Link #3021 |
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Yes, Eucliwood is strong enough to beat Shana for sure, and possibly Mikoto/Taiga too. The unfortunate thing is that if Eucliwood does win her bracket, she would gather so much tsundere hate that the finale will be as lopsided as it can be. It is Kanade's best ending.
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2012-10-08, 19:15 | Link #3022 |
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ARENA 01: Tachibana Kanade [Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko)]
ARENA 02: [Misaka Mikoto] Aisaka Taiga ARENA 03: [Isanami] Rias Gremory Shirakiin Ririchiyo ARENA 04: [Henrietta de Tristain] Tachibana Miya Yamano Lemon ARENA 05: Araragi Tsukihi Sonya [Tanamachi Kaoru] ARENA 06: Akazawa Izumi [Mishima Nana] Tōjō Koneko ARENA 07: Urabe Mikoto [Xiao-Mei] Yoshida Yuki ARENA 08: Coco Eureka [Sanka Rea] ARENA 09: Kanoe Yūko SG550 [Tokura Misaki] ARENA 10: Furuya Mero [Ibara Mayaka] Satō Masaki
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2012-10-08, 22:27 | Link #3023 |
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Damn, that was pretty lopsided. Not sure that bodes well, although I wouldn't mind seeing Kanade vs Mikoto in PS2 finals because otherwise they wouldn't have met for a whole year (one on one).
Maybe Eu could've been closer to Kanade, but I still think an increase in voters won't favour her. And I guess we'll have to wait and see whether tactical voting has been going on through the Stella route. As for exhibition, I guess we'll see Sankarea and Hyouka represented next year. High School DxD and Another might make it in too. Not too sure about Yuuko. And hopefully someone can put up the brackets for PS2 given that I have no intention of trying to figure who goes where out.
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2012-10-08, 22:55 | Link #3024 |
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Congrats on your Circlet wins Kanade and Mikoto! In Kanade's case, I don't think many people gave her much chance of failing to get the Sapphire Circlet. She did have a scare against Kobato but it came in a match she couldn't lose and she recoved from it. Kanade nearly doubles Kuroneko in the final. It's a performance that's roughly 8 percentage points better than their regular season record (66.5% vs 58.6%). Mikoto's case is a bit more surprising. Unlike the Nova Division, she's supposed to have competition in Stella. However, not even Taiga was able to get Mikoto below 58%. That's a huge change from Mikoto's win with 51.9% over Taiga back in Emerald 7. With this the "warmup" playoffs are now over and there are no more second chances. Claiming the Tiara will require nothing less than a perfect record from here on. Will anyone be able to stop Mikoto or Kanade?
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2012-10-09, 00:28 | Link #3025 | |
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2012-10-09, 09:57 | Link #3029 |
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Well too bad for Kuroneko, thought she would probably lose, but did hope she'd come a bit closer. Oh, well at least Mikoto won.
For the exhibitions, glad to see Yuki win that one dominantly. Also good for Mayaka slipping through win that win as well.
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2012-10-09, 22:42 | Link #3030 |
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So, the tournament is going to look like the following?
Spoiler for Possible Actual Bracket:
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2012-10-10, 00:19 | Link #3031 |
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http://www.internationalsaimoe.com/rules/charter.php
Section XI.C.3 3rd Place is awarded to the Contestant who won two (2) matches and lost to the Contestant who won four (4) matches. Section XI.C.4 4th Place is awarded to the Contestant who won two (2) matches and lost to the Contestant who won three (3) matches. Yui lost to Kanade who won so Yui is 3rd. Eucliwood lost to Kuroneko so Eucliwood is 4th. Yuki lost to Mikoto who won so Yuki is 3rd. Saber lost to Taiga so Saber is 4th.
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2012-10-13, 00:07 | Link #3033 | ||
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I would've personally grouped N1 with S2, S3 and N4 (with their respective opponents) while grouping S1 with N2, N3 and S4 (with their respective opponents). Quote:
And yea, I know regular season finish doesn't automatically determine strength, but still, what we got doesn't really say much about strength either. Haha, WTF?
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2012-10-13, 04:12 | Link #3036 |
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The brackets are set up mathematically. Postseason 1 has no consolation and its purpose is to not rank #2-16. Its purpose is to seed ranks #1-8 at that point of the competition. Shana lost, so she doesn't deserve an easier opponent. Semi-finals matchups are no way any likely or guarantee. Can 2N really beat 3S? Yuki is that weak? Shana could've easily been 3S. Taiga could've easily been 3S. The other side is the same--Eucliwood could very well snipe Mikoto as she gets closer to "reclaiming" her tiara. The main point of avoiding a 1N vs 2S / 1S vs 2N semi-final is that if 2N beats 1S or 1N beats 2S, then the tiara match will be a repeat of a circlet match. Therefore, we'd rather have a repeat in the semi-finals than the finals.
In short, it's easy to to make comments in hindsight. All systems will have unfavorable outcomes, and Shana losing plays a big role in this one.
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2012-10-13, 14:16 | Link #3037 |
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Taiga and Shana had very little chance of being 3S. It would require Mikoto to have lost in the finals. Even if you think that's possible, there's nothing easy about turning around a 58-42 match. Section XI.C.3 and Section XI.C.4 are also an odd way of doing a tiebreaker. Assuming a completely cookie cutter tournament with 0 upsets and everyone staying exactly the same in terms of strength, the third and fourth seed would switch positions between post season phases. It also lead to Yui getting a better seed than Eucliwood despite losing out in the regular season and getting destroyed by Kanade relative to Eucliwood nearly beating Kuroneko. Actually the result of Kuroneko vs Eucliwood doesn't mean much since if it went as expected, Yui would still be above Kuroneko. However, I guess there aren't really any good ways to deal with a tiebreaker since it always relies on something other than a head to head result.
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2012-10-13, 14:32 | Link #3038 |
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What I will agree with is Section XI.C.3 and Section XI.C.4 being an odd way of doing a tiebreaker. That's actually a relic of an older system, but we didn't take it out for whatever reason. You do bring up a good point that instead of regular season ranking, we can go with head-to-head regular season tiebreaker, for the 3/4 seed only. Maybe we'll do that next year.
Taiga and Shana had a great chance of being 3S. Remember the hindsight thing and how we shouldn't do it. Before the match, I could have easily imagined Taiga beating Mikoto. You could too, don't you?
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2012-10-13, 15:40 | Link #3039 |
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Sure, before the post season, I thought Shana and Taiga had a chance to win. However, hindsight is what shows that that was a mistake. They didn't actually have much of a chance to win. My prediction of their ability relative to Mikoto was completely wrong.
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