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Waven · 2013-01-05, 11:52

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Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

I thought GE was pretty good till chapter 40 or somewhere around. Still uf it was so popular it would have better sales than those. More like KNIM.

I think it would be easier to find more poeple not liking it and hating considering the general pool of manga readers. GE's sales werent high.

Nisekoi managed doing it much better. Its not like GE did not try doing comedy and the fanservce specially on covers of some chapter but GE failed to deliver and Nisekoi didnt.

Romance in Nisekoi is pretty heavy too since Chitoge realizes her feelings. It however is doing in light way. Something that GE desperately lacked and this was one of its main faults as all the humor felt terrible and was drawned out in the shit waves of drama. Which is what made GE as unrealistic as all those other romance manga's without being able to show same level of Popularity as KNIM, Ichigo or Nisekoi currently.

Why are you trying to compare and shove another series that isn't even the same genre in peoples' faces? shorom /= romcom/harem ... one bases its plot on drama situations, the other mostly on comedy. Why do people keep trying to sell me oranges for apples?

ReaperxKingx · 2013-01-05, 11:56

This manga sure had much potential so I am agreeing that there was much let down. Utsumi was frustrating for me to read. I think the author was going for a passive nice guy protagonist to survive adversity without resorting to violence. Sort of a fantasy guy that girls sometimes think of. Really didn't like it.

LeaD36 · 2013-01-05, 16:44

not the greatest ending but i guess it's a good ending? It didn't end as abrupt as i remember Suzuka ending, so that's a relief for me. Although i feel there could have been like 1-2 wrap up chapters, but all in all i really liked the story at the start and i'm glad it didn't get prolonged to unspeakable lengths and bullshit like knimshit.
All in all i think back positively on reading this.

Xaturas · 2013-01-05, 17:05

Ok found the chapter online. Wanted to give it a chance. Read about 30-40% of text total (skipped most of the stupid parts), was happy when the tedious chore that reading this chapter was, was over.
God beginning, bad series, bad ending, or should I say retarded ending.
But oh well whatever a woman has to eat, so she will spew her drama out.
I just hope she will go to cellphone novels or something, so that other mangakas will get a chance.

Zetsubo · 2013-01-05, 17:43

Oh dear Buddha ... what have I read !!!!

Kusa-San · 2013-01-05, 18:15

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Originally Posted by Dauerlutscher

Unlike the opinion of some forum nerds, there exist the fact that despite the hating and conplaining of them, the mangas or video games were selling so god that it was possible to continue with making them.

So because we don't like a manga (too cliché, bad writing) we're nerd ? Do you even know what the word mean

?

About the chapter 156 : What can I say : I'm glad it has ended...

Arkard · 2013-01-05, 18:31

So... the reason Seiji and Yuki broke up in the first place was glossed over completely with the magical appearance of their kid... ugh.

Xion Valkyrie · 2013-01-05, 19:05

Wow, 10 years pass and the characters look identical except for some hairstyle differences. I think the author needs to work on face diversity. It doesn't help that her 'pretty' guys have the same face as the girls too.

I think the biggest problem with this manga is that it dealt with some really heavy issues, but the author didn't address them in a mature and realistic manor, instead opting for forced drama and convenient plot twists. It should have stayed a bit more light hearted like the earlier chapters without delving into such dark territory.

cero_86 · 2013-01-05, 19:14

I just can't help but rage seeing Shou pregnant, is she a housewife? did she go to college? what did she do with her life? we get nothing but a lame joke, author completely destroyed her character.

vansonbee · 2013-01-05, 19:41

^ I recall she wanted to be a teacher of some type after college. Kind of sad, we only get to see Yuki become a doctor. ROFL so expected of her type of character.

Isekaijin · 2013-01-05, 21:06

Finally it ended. Not really happy about the ending though.

Personally I think both committing a double suicide would have been a more fitting ending. Alas I'm glad the rage train stopped-

Darknemo2000 · 2013-01-05, 22:48

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Originally Posted by Waven

Why are you trying to compare and shove another series that isn't even the same genre in peoples' faces? shorom /= romcom/harem ... one bases its plot on drama situations, the other mostly on comedy. Why do people keep trying to sell me oranges for apples?

Because it shows that you can do much better if you put some light in it?

Ok, lets say Nisekoi is a bad example cause the humor takes big part of it but KNIM is a better example of drama but still able to give some light inbetween. Granted its not the best series around but its still doing quite well.

GE just killed itself and its own potential with that shitload of drama without any lighter, funnier break periods. At first it was fun, then it became boring and eventually changed to stupidity.

GE is an example how you should not write a romance manga manga. It survived pretty long but within a very forgiving magazine and a pretty good art. Give such art to an actually good story and you would get much much better sales result.

Waven · 2013-01-06, 06:28

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Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

Because it shows that you can do much better if you put some light in it?

Ok, lets say Nisekoi is a bad example cause the humor takes big part of it but KNIM is a better example of drama but still able to give some light inbetween. Granted its not the best series around but its still doing quite well.

GE just killed itself and its own potential with that shitload of drama without any lighter, funnier break periods. At first it was fun, then it became boring and eventually changed to stupidity.

GE is an example how you should not write a romance manga manga. It survived pretty long but within a very forgiving magazine and a pretty good art. Give such art to an actually good story and you would get much much better sales result.

Ok, I generally agree with that. The nonstop drama was GE's biggest ailment and I was also among the people who complained about it in the early stages. I just figured people would get used to it if they stuck to it long enough because that's what happened to me - I was just content with the drama not being seinen-dark, the quantity didn't matter that much to me at some point.

Dauerlutscher · 2013-01-06, 07:53

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Originally Posted by Kusa-San

So because we don't like a manga (too cliché, bad writing) we're nerd ?

Dude, I never said that.

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Do you even know what the word mean

?

Yup, I know the meaning.

Master Chibi · 2013-01-06, 13:42

What kinda stalker are you to be apologizing and talking about a relationship with your ex ten years later when said ex-'s husband is standing right there? And then proceed to apologize to the husband? Ten years for a time skip was a bad idea. Technically, thanks to this time skip ending, Yuki and Utsumi didn't do a damn thing. At all.

This series started out well. Utsumi stuck to his guns, things were paced well, characters were developing nicely. Then it just hit a wall and just kept driving up that damn wall.

Fuck.

Zetsubo · 2013-01-07, 14:14

That whole breakup was unnecessary for the story.

That whole being together with Shou and meeting her family was unnecessary.

That whole having sex to lick each others wounds (while realistic) ... was unnecessary.

They could have made Yuki and Utsumi work together on their relationship and have the drama of a final match as the tennis club... have her strive to over come her fear of sex... have him strive to become a journalist or photographer...

Have them work to something and fight to maintain their relationship and ambitions in a fast paced world.

Even Eri and the baseball had something more sensible.

The tennis club rookies antics were unnecessary

Introducing character connections... late in the game... (Toruh's sister for crying out loud !)

Unnecessary

That whole "daddy takes her back bit..."

Unnecessary

Frankly the story was fine when it just started but I think the author or editors got confused in the middle and started flailing about.

Why did you bring back shou... and at the same time why did you introduce us to the cat girl (that looks similar to shou ?)

Arggh

Suzuku · 2013-01-10, 13:38

Wow, can't believe it really ended. It's always kind of hard to believe that a manga you've been following for 4 years has actually ended but so it has. It's for the best, it was really beginning to look long in the tooth ever since Tooru showed up truth be told. I'm going to miss it, having read it weekly for the past couple years but I'm glad that Sasuga can move onto something fresh now. Anyone heard what her next work might be?

Darknemo2000 · 2013-01-10, 15:39

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Originally Posted by Suzuku

Anyone heard what her next work might be?

Hopefully it will be something already written by another author.

Suzuku · 2013-01-10, 15:45

Why? I'd rather see her take another crack at her own original rom drama with what she learned from her time doing GE.

Irenicus · 2013-01-10, 16:14

Ooh, I remember reading this manga like...ages ago when it started out. Thought it was okay, didn't follow up.

"Catched up" by skipping right to the end and didn't think I missed much. Timeskip, the main girl wins, good end, anything else?

The drama and hurt in this thread is why I am not a fan of shounen romance (as opposed to romantic comedy, i.e. something like Nisekoi, or shoujo romance). You poor, poor people.

2013-01-05, 17:05	Link #4864
Xaturas Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010	Ok found the chapter online. Wanted to give it a chance. Read about 30-40% of text total (skipped most of the stupid parts), was happy when the tedious chore that reading this chapter was, was over. God beginning, bad series, bad ending, or should I say retarded ending. But oh well whatever a woman has to eat, so she will spew her drama out. I just hope she will go to cellphone novels or something, so that other mangakas will get a chance. __________________

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vansonbee ❤Ichigo 100%❤ Join Date: Jan 2011	^ I recall she wanted to be a teacher of some type after college. Kind of sad, we only get to see Yuki become a doctor. ROFL so expected of her type of character. __________________ MAL

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Master Chibi .: A bad doggy :. Join Date: Jun 2007	What kinda stalker are you to be apologizing and talking about a relationship with your ex ten years later when said ex-'s husband is standing right there? And then proceed to apologize to the husband? Ten years for a time skip was a bad idea. Technically, thanks to this time skip ending, Yuki and Utsumi didn't do a damn thing. At all. This series started out well. Utsumi stuck to his guns, things were paced well, characters were developing nicely. Then it just hit a wall and just kept driving up that damn wall. Fuck. __________________ ~Hai! Back to Japan! Updated once a week - http://pishi.wordpress.com/ Last updated - 5/30/10 - Random Manga Roulette! Last edited by Master Chibi; 2013-01-07 at 17:46.*

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Suzuku (`･⊝･´)/\(`･⊝･´) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Jacksonville, FL Age: 30	Wow, can't believe it really ended. It's always kind of hard to believe that a manga you've been following for 4 years has actually ended but so it has. It's for the best, it was really beginning to look long in the tooth ever since Tooru showed up truth be told. I'm going to miss it, having read it weekly for the past couple years but I'm glad that Sasuga can move onto something fresh now. Anyone heard what her next work might be? __________________ BRAVO VINCE

2013-01-10, 15:45	Link #4879
Suzuku (`･⊝･´)/\(`･⊝･´) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Jacksonville, FL Age: 30	Why? I'd rather see her take another crack at her own original rom drama with what she learned from her time doing GE. __________________ BRAVO VINCE

2013-01-05, 11:56	Link #4862
ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	This manga sure had much potential so I am agreeing that there was much let down. Utsumi was frustrating for me to read. I think the author was going for a passive nice guy protagonist to survive adversity without resorting to violence. Sort of a fantasy guy that girls sometimes think of. Really didn't like it.

2013-01-05, 16:44	Link #4863
LeaD36 LeaDfactor Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hungary, Budapest Age: 33	not the greatest ending but i guess it's a good ending? It didn't end as abrupt as i remember Suzuka ending, so that's a relief for me. Although i feel there could have been like 1-2 wrap up chapters, but all in all i really liked the story at the start and i'm glad it didn't get prolonged to unspeakable lengths and bullshit like knimshit. All in all i think back positively on reading this.

2013-01-05, 17:43	Link #4865
Zetsubo 著述遮断 Join Date: Jul 2009	Oh dear Buddha ... what have I read !!!!

2013-01-05, 18:31	Link #4867
Arkard Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: United States	So... the reason Seiji and Yuki broke up in the first place was glossed over completely with the magical appearance of their kid... ugh.

2013-01-05, 19:05	Link #4868
Xion Valkyrie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007	Wow, 10 years pass and the characters look identical except for some hairstyle differences. I think the author needs to work on face diversity. It doesn't help that her 'pretty' guys have the same face as the girls too. I think the biggest problem with this manga is that it dealt with some really heavy issues, but the author didn't address them in a mature and realistic manor, instead opting for forced drama and convenient plot twists. It should have stayed a bit more light hearted like the earlier chapters without delving into such dark territory.

2013-01-05, 19:14	Link #4869
cero_86 Member Join Date: Nov 2003	I just can't help but rage seeing Shou pregnant, is she a housewife? did she go to college? what did she do with her life? we get nothing but a lame joke, author completely destroyed her character.

2013-01-05, 21:06	Link #4871
Isekaijin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008	Finally it ended. Not really happy about the ending though. Personally I think both committing a double suicide would have been a more fitting ending. Alas I'm glad the rage train stopped-

2013-01-07, 14:14	Link #4876
Zetsubo 著述遮断 Join Date: Jul 2009	That whole breakup was unnecessary for the story. That whole being together with Shou and meeting her family was unnecessary. That whole having sex to lick each others wounds (while realistic) ... was unnecessary. They could have made Yuki and Utsumi work together on their relationship and have the drama of a final match as the tennis club... have her strive to over come her fear of sex... have him strive to become a journalist or photographer... Have them work to something and fight to maintain their relationship and ambitions in a fast paced world. Even Eri and the baseball had something more sensible. The tennis club rookies antics were unnecessary Introducing character connections... late in the game... (Toruh's sister for crying out loud !) Unnecessary That whole "daddy takes her back bit..." Unnecessary Frankly the story was fine when it just started but I think the author or editors got confused in the middle and started flailing about. Why did you bring back shou... and at the same time why did you introduce us to the cat girl (that looks similar to shou ?) Arggh

2013-01-10, 16:14	Link #4880
Irenicus Le fou, c'est moi Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Age: 34	Ooh, I remember reading this manga like...ages ago when it started out. Thought it was okay, didn't follow up. "Catched up" by skipping right to the end and didn't think I missed much. Timeskip, the main girl wins, good end, anything else? The drama and hurt in this thread is why I am not a fan of shounen romance (as opposed to romantic comedy, i.e. something like Nisekoi, or shoujo romance). You poor, poor people.