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Old 2013-01-29, 18:21   Link #2221
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Did Ishida magically disappear from the plot? I mean he gave a simple no when Ichigo thought about going to Hueco Mundo. Are these new Quincies the reason why Ryuken had no pride of being a Quincy?
I've been wondering from the start about why Ishida suddenly went AWOL in a story where the bad guys are Quincies, but I guess shinigami are so important we can't afford to spend even a panel on what the Ishidas are up to.

I guess he'll suddenly appear when the shinigami training montage is over (sometime this September, maybe? :P), get his ass kicked in one or two chapters, and then go back being a wallflower. Poor guy.
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Old 2013-01-29, 18:44   Link #2222
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Maybe one slash has more 'killing power' than another.
"Killing power"? How would such a thing be measured though? By the supposed strength of the attacker? Or the amount of killing intent behind the attack? Either way, why should either really matter? I mean whether a character gets cleaved in two by someone really strong or really weak, should it make much of a difference if the same type of injury or the same amount of damage is dealt?

Well either way, feel free continue speculating. I just personally find it easier to believe that any and all fatal injuries in this series are only fatal at Kubo's discretion. It prevents me from having to think about something I don't believe was meant to be thought about too seriously.
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Old 2013-01-29, 19:07   Link #2223
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now just need his hair to go gold
or bald.....

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Old 2013-01-29, 20:08   Link #2224
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"Killing power"? How would such a thing be measured though? By the supposed strength of the attacker? Or the amount of killing intent behind the attack? Either way, why should either really matter? I mean whether a character gets cleaved in two by someone really strong or really weak, should it make much of a difference if the same type of injury or the same amount of damage is dealt?

Well either way, feel free continue speculating. I just personally find it easier to believe that any and all fatal injuries in this series are only fatal at Kubo's discretion. It prevents me from having to think about something I don't believe was meant to be thought about too seriously.
Well yeah to a certain degree all of it is at Kubo's discretion, that is probably the only logical explanation.

But if I had to defend that there is logic to Bleach ... well they are spiritual bodies so it could be another dimension to how damaged a character is. Also you have to consider the flow of the story and what that particular cut meant. Like if the person was cut right off the bat it may be minor or fatal whereas if it was like inbetween a fight with no real build up it the same type of cut may not have the same affect. Context is important especially with Bleach because....unfortunately everything only ever makes sense in the current context of the story -_-
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Old 2013-01-29, 22:04   Link #2225
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I've been wondering from the start about why Ishida suddenly went AWOL in a story where the bad guys are Quincies, but I guess shinigami are so important we can't afford to spend even a panel on what the Ishidas are up to.

I guess he'll suddenly appear when the shinigami training montage is over (sometime this September, maybe? :P), get his ass kicked in one or two chapters, and then go back being a wallflower. Poor guy.
Can't be worse than being Chad who was defeated twice in Hueco Mundo, was manipulated later and now... better not to let him fight. Then there is Orihime and Rukia who barely fight regardless of how important they are.
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Old 2013-01-29, 22:46   Link #2226
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Well yeah to a certain degree all of it is at Kubo's discretion, that is probably the only logical explanation.

But if I had to defend that there is logic to Bleach ... well they are spiritual bodies so it could be another dimension to how damaged a character is. Also you have to consider the flow of the story and what that particular cut meant. Like if the person was cut right off the bat it may be minor or fatal whereas if it was like inbetween a fight with no real build up it the same type of cut may not have the same affect. Context is important especially with Bleach because....unfortunately everything only ever makes sense in the current context of the story -_-
Point taken.
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Old 2013-01-30, 04:02   Link #2227
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Chapters out. So I guess Kenpachi isn't really immortal....and btw these 2 chapters totes could've been combined into one
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Old 2013-01-30, 04:04   Link #2228
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Not only does he limit himself with his eyepatch but he also limits himself unconsciously. Where is this story going!? Shouldn't his limit be automatically removed if he finds else someone who is immensely strong like Bach? or Ichigo? or Yamamoto? Why am I even bothering to ask question about another typical shounen power up? I should be grateful that he didn't just bath in some magical onsen and got 50 STR +.

Edit: I am sorry for the rant. It is like 1:00 AM, forgive me.
Edit2: Bach even beat the crap out of him... Ok, I am going to bed.
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Old 2013-01-30, 04:16   Link #2229
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Firstly I would say I am happy with the way things. The relationship is not so twisted.
chapter then brings answers:

_first Response, the battle between our two buddies has taken place at the time of the 13, at least immediately after, as Unohana is the captain but the hair in the wind, and the young "zaraki" reminds young "Kyoraku." One can easily say that it dates back 1000 years ago ... (The counter-argument if you find one ...)

_second Response translations on the last time, there is no special power to bring the dead back to life. It is simply pushing near death, near death etc.. and therefore the cure at the last moment in order (pending) BREAKING seal ken-chan that is self-imposed! HUGE

_and 3eme Response, the sin of the beautiful Yachiru! Well it is simply being selfish! thinking only of her, she leaves lives to this monster to satisfy his pleasure real fight. I find it very well led by Kubo.
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Old 2013-01-30, 05:21   Link #2230
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Oh man ...
This past was so good.
Unohana killing and healing him each time ...
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Old 2013-01-30, 06:57   Link #2231
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Well.....now at least we know why Kenny lost to Ichigo. That's vindication enough for me
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Old 2013-01-30, 07:25   Link #2232
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Well.....now at least we know why Kenny lost to Ichigo. That's vindication enough for me
Ichigo would have trashed the floor with Kenny if he had used his Quincy powers
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Old 2013-01-30, 07:46   Link #2233
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so that's why Kenpachi continuously losing his consciousness....

Unohana is a bully.... please don't die....
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Old 2013-01-30, 08:09   Link #2234
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No real surprises there. The fact Kenpachi is always unconsciously limiting himself was already brought up in the novels by Narita. I assume Kenpachi is going to become even more absurdly overpowered as he was in this.
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Old 2013-01-30, 08:17   Link #2235
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Sorta called it

Texted my friend Unohana is going to die before the chapter even came out.
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Old 2013-01-30, 09:55   Link #2236
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Latest chapter was awesome... and I did not know that Zaraki was cute when he was a child and it's hard to believe that he was stronger that time than he was at his current age .

I have this strange feeling that the fanbase around the world is going to form a ship that is called UnohanaxZaraki.

I'm scared, my friends are talking about this ship as we speak. With their wild and naughty theories of Unohana killing and resurrection Zaraki countless times in order to sate her fetish for killing people.
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Old 2013-01-30, 10:04   Link #2237
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So Zaraki isn't immortal but Unohana is killing and healing him constantly? wow!
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Old 2013-01-30, 10:09   Link #2238
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This latest chapter was good. That explains alot of the power unbalances earlier on.
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Old 2013-01-30, 10:14   Link #2239
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It's rare for me to enjoy a few chapters in a row so much as I have since the whole Unohana vs Zaraki things started.

I must admit, I really liked how Kubo made the flashback and explained how Zaraki's power worked. So he was pretty much a complete monster but his fear of losing the only worthy adversaries made him subconsciously hold his power back. It's actually pretty damn cool and it explains why his matches have so close despite him being hyped up so much.

I also like what Unohana is doing with killing him and bringing him back to unshackle his power...I'm guessing fuller powered Zaraki will be a real overwhelming beast (though he'll of course be overshadowed by Ichigo cause...lolmaincharacter)
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Old 2013-01-30, 10:51   Link #2240
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Awful chapter.
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