Muv-Luv Franchise - FanFiction Discussion

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by Alastor Mobius Toth

Also, my idea about Alt. V is not just about it sounding, in pure theory, as something more likely to work than Alt. IV - it's also that in twisted way, Alt. IV didn't solve much! Think about it - yes, Original Hive is destroyed, but many more battles remain before BETA will be pushed out, and there's no way of telling if mankind won't screw something up along the way. Also, the rampant nationalism and politics still remain, with only the threat of BETA in space holding mankind together. That's not a very stable glue; anything may go at the moment, and frankly, Yuuko is not an unmistakable genuis - nor is she a very altruistic politician.

Vast swathes of Earth were also already devastated by BETA, and it remains to be seen just how well it can recover.

In some ways, just starting anew on another planet may make things better, especially when national governments are more interested in making the most out of Earth's ruins.

Spoiler for For Unlimited End:

If we think about it that way, Unlimited ends on better way than Alternative, Big-Picture wise. Yes, Earth is devastated and people there go through gehenna. But epilogue shows that colony ships successfully landed, and 100 000 people are completely safe, while being already armed with know-how on countering BETA. May not seem much, but Mankind's population was already around 1billion at that point anyway. And all those pesky Earth governments? They all thought it would fail anyway, so they largely ended up staying on Earth, if U.S and France are any indication.

This actually makes a certain kind of sense, I guess. And to be fair, if the G-Bombs hadn't fucked over the environment, it woulda been the best of both worlds.

Also, I ended up with Tomcat and Fulcrum as males because I like gender equality.

Spoiler for Jive Turkey:

"Now now, ladies, please, make way."
The deep bass voice had started Shiranui and Raptor away from (un)fortunate Yuuya. Before them stood a dark-skinned man, with a well groomed impressive facial hair and rougish ponytail. He was wearing dark sunglasses.

"Now, I believe 'dem lovely cupcake needs some airr, no?" His deep bass voice was absurdly smooth as he slipped by the two stunned girls, and casually brought his arm around Yuuya, gently leading him out of ladies assault.
"I AM SEEING SPARKLES!!!!!~KYAAAH, WHY AM I SEEING SPARKLES!? Shiranui mentally screamed, why Raptor just stood there rooted to ground.

"Now then Young Man, why don't we have some cold shakes, ain't that right?" He drawled to Yuuya, before pushing him towards another bar. Behind him, the man's companion slapped his ginger hair. "Bloody Hell Tomcat...we're so going to get it now..."

No need to thank me.

I ain't thanking you.

This reminds me of a lulzy line in Yellow Eyes, by Tom Kratman:

Will we be male or female? asked the AID.

We shall be female, came the answer, as are most like us. Russian warships are male but they are mostly gay.

Originally Posted by wavehawk

- Not just the Plane AI. The Tactical and Strategic computers, et al are all included. The JAM would probbaly see them as a sort-of semi Hive Mind in the sense that the planes go out collect info and hunt, and then share this information at the central hub (Tactical Computer and Strategic computer at base).

The comparison with Muv-Luv is when you notice that early in the war the BETA tended to attack mechanisms but not individual soldiers (except as raw materials). For all the BETA Superiors know, the TSFs were using humans as power sources or tactical weapons computers...

That... puts an interesting spin on things. Very interesting...

- I actually have a short story with that in mind, but I'll probably be stoned for using original characters even before anyone read it.

Not from me; my story is essentially populated by OCs.

- Just remember that there's the obvious Japanese bias---having been on the receiving end of a WMD, it's usually the scariest thing they can think of. So much so that any solution involving a WMD is the worst possible solution.

Also my take on Alternative V: I do not mind, and actually encourage humanity to reach out and find a new home beyond Earth...but it has to be BY CHOICE, not because we're being overrun by Alien bugs.

...that, and what happens if the BETA drop by on that new planet before the population is ready?

Good point. And I'm actually out of insightful and witty things to say atm, except that this is an interesting perspective indeed.

Human beings (both as individuals and groups) have two problems that work in the favor of ANY Alien invader:
1.) At a subconscious level we do not care for anyone who does not support them or have anything of value we can make use of.
2.) Majority of human beings have an inabilty to think long-term.

The breadth of these discussions prove, without a doubt, that Muv-Luv is hardly just some pron game. But then, we all already knew that.

...Total Eclipse VN had BETTER have a Yui end, btw. And a 3rd person shooter using the ACE engine would be totally sweet...

[Darthtabby]

Originally Posted by wavehawk

- It's not going to happen IMHO. The reason Nationalism (or racism, or religious purism, etc) exists is as an extended form of individualism. The gist of it being: "No, we are not world citizens, we are not all the same---we are special because we are of this race/country/religion/economic theory/sports and that makes us superior and different to the rest of you." The irony of that is that these people homogenize themselves within their own circles (go to the same pub every night, eat the exact same food as your uncles and aunts)---People I know IRL who try so hard to be individual just end up imitating everyone else.

"Standing out by being just like everyone else."

A unified government in the Muv-Luv universe doesn't exist--in spite of facing a common threat--because people believe that to be part a major movement, a one world government, means giving up their individual right to choose things on their own. Like how the French dropped out of the Eurofighter program (in ML and in real life) because things weren't going their way. People/Groups have desires and wants, and they may compromise on some, but there will always be one or two that they will stick to, despite common sense telling them this is unwise.

Although the characters in MLA talk about the need for a unified government, let's face it: Japan, the United States, and other countries would pay only lip service to it at best---and outright fight it at the worst.The US wants the United Nations to do things the US way, Japan and Asian natiosn want it done another, so forth and so on. There will always be some group/organization/government/country that will insist on doing outlandish and downright dangerous things to the world at large just to show that they're tougher and better than everyone else/that they have a God-given mission to change the world the way THEY see fit.

Human beings (both as individuals and groups) have two problems that work in the favor of ANY Alien invader:
1.) At a subconscious level we do not care for anyone who does not support them or have anything of value we can make use of.
2.) Majority of human beings have an inabilty to think long-term.

I think you misinterpreted what I was getting at with those excerpts from Good Luck, Yukikaze. Perhaps the selection I chose was not the best for illustrating my point. That section of the book talk about things like how nations are involved in the defense of the earth for their own self interest, and how conditions on Earth aren't conducive to producing people who identify themselves as Earthers rather than members of Group/Nation X. This reminds me of certain elements in Muv Luv. In particular I find it notable that Takeru pretty much ends up becoming an "Earther," but he was essentially an alien in an alternate version of his home country. Plus he got to see what more or less amounted to refugees fleeing the Earth. Then you have Yuuko, who somehow also managed to rise above her national origins to look out for the human species. And all over the various Muv Luv series you have nationalism and nations looking out for their own narrow interests, even with all of humanity facing destruction from the BETA. See where I'm seeing possible connections?

I think when you get right down to it there's quite a bit of stuff in Muv Luv which may owe something to the Yukikaze series.

[Wild Goose]

Like how modern technothrillers owe to the work by Coonts and Clancy, and how practically every Cold War gone hot scenario borrows from Sir John Hackett's The Third World War and Red Storm Rising by Tom Clancy and Larry Bond.

Actually, mentioning Yukikaze, it does appear that it was an influence, especially given how geeky Kouki has been with the TSF backstories.

[wavehawk]

Dammit, now I've got the idea in my head and it won't go away. Just you wait, I'll write up that short story I'm thinking of and post it here.

[Wild Goose]

Happy Chinese New Year to all! Sasahar17 has completed the next installment of Muv-Luv: Do You Remember Luv!

Do enjoy! And yes, I also BETAed this fic XD

Muv-Luv: DYRL - Valkyries.

[John117xCortana]

I like the culture shock of this chapter. I'm looking forward to Ivanova's showdown with A-01.

[sasahar17]

Originally Posted by wavehawk

Dammit, now I've got the idea in my head and it won't go away. Just you wait, I'll write up that short story I'm thinking of and post it here.

Yayfications! When do you plan on having it done?

Originally Posted by John117xCortana

I like the culture shock of this chapter. I'm looking forward to Ivanova's showdown with A-01.

Hey Goose! Look at this comment! Lolz.

Oh man, John117XCortana... you have no idea.

Spoiler for ML:DYRL, Boening F-15E-OT Over Eagle Writeup:

Boening F-15E-OT Over Eagle

The first TSF developed by Project Valkyrie, the F-15E-OT Over Eagle is a powerful variant of the F15 series of TSFs, and an all-time favorite of many Gunsweeper specialists. Designed as a cheap, easy to maintain upgrade of the F-15E Strike Eagle using parts that could be found anywhere, the Over Eagle was very beloved among pilots and maintenance crews alike, although it earned a special hatred by logistics personnel for the astounding rate it consumed ammunition and fuel.

Background

Despite its fame as the most lethal variant of the F-15 ever fielded, the Over Eagle was originally envisioned as a self-imposed challenge by Project Valkyrie Chief Engineer Vincent Lowell and was never intended for actual use in the field. Vincent was convinced he could increase the combat effectiveness of a TSF with nothing more than existing technologies and his technical knowhow. Seeing as how the F-15 series was the most prevalent TSF fielded worldwide, Vincent chose the Strike Eagle as his test bed. Originally just a proof of concept machine that would be used to gather the data needed to create an actual production level TSF in the future, the Over Eagle’s involvement in the Ireland Raid and the Red Shift Incident lead to widespread awareness and interest in the machine, resulting in its actual deployment in battlefields.

Development History

The Over Eagle was designed with three things in mind. Firstly, to increase the combat effectiveness of a single TSF beyond what is normally believed to be its limit. Secondly, to use only components that can be normally found in forward bases so that the Over Eagle, or at least parts of it, can be used as a quick field upgrade to existing Eagles. Thirdly, to make the Over Eagle modular, enabling it to be adaptable to many different mission types.
Vincent some studied the most successful TSF designs, including the YF-23 Black Widow, A10 Thunderbolt II and even the A6 Intruder. He concluded that while weaponry was the most important factor for a successful TSF, but maneuverability and speed couldn’t be compromised in the event that a tactical retreat was needed. After a week of messing with some blueprints, what emerged was an F-15 variant like nothing the world had ever seen before.

Although the Over Eagles were developed as developmental test machines with the idea of using nothing more than using spare equipment to quickly increase the firepower of existing Strike Eagles, the popularity of the Over Eagle eventually meant Vincent designed specific weapons and systems for the model to exploit its full potential.

Design Features

The most famous part about the Over Eagle is its myriad of weapons. Fully armed, it has more short term firepower to rival three, perhaps even four, A-10 Thunderbolt IIs. Also, given that Lowell wanted these upgrades to be quickly implementable in the field, many ‘Semi-Over Eagles’, Strike Eagles with only a part-way conversion to an Over Eagle, were found in the militaries of the world.

Four Mount Pylons/Turrets: Taking a page out of Northrock’s YF-23, the Over Eagle has four Mount Pylons. While Mount Pylons are normally intended to act as ‘holsters’ for unused weapons and occasionally as an auxiliary arm, but Vincent intended for these to be used as primarily as turrets that could be either controlled by an automated targeting system or a co-pilot. This allows the Over Eagle to use six 36mm caliber weapons simultaneously, four of which have omnidirectional fire arcs. Indeed, some Over Eagles used by Gun-sweeper specialists have done away with the Mount Pylons altogether and simply mounted Assault Cannons with drum magazines on the auxiliary arms as permanent fixtures.
+ The easiest of the upgrades to implement, all it required by Lowell’s modified OS and two more Mount Pylons that can be spared. Until the introduction of coil gun type Assault Cannons, tests by Project Valkyrie showed the top loading high capacity magazine of the Type-87 Assault cannon worked best with the Over Eagle due to its compact size. When their findings were published, The Empire of Japan suddenly found itself swarmed with requests to purchase Type-87s from the various militaries of interested nations.

Head Mounted .50 BMG Machine Guns: Directly inspired by Yui Takamura’s use of a M82 to kill a Tank BETA, two .50 BMG machine guns with as many as 500 rounds each are mounted inside the TSF’s head. These .50 BMG MGs were intended specifically to pick off Tank BETA that had swarmed all over another TSF. The .50 BMG round is large enough to kill Tanks, but small enough not to endanger the TSF it is trying to rescue. However, since Over Eagles rarely encounter this situation in the field, or at least ones where rescuing the swarmed TSF in this manner was still possible, most Over Eagles choose to use these weapons to pick off smaller BETA and save their larger caliber ammunition for more resilient targets.
+ Although .50 BMG Machine Guns such as the GAU-19 were the intended component for the head mounted weapons, many field upgrades saw some unlikely components being substituted depending on what was available. A particularly infamous example from the French Foreign Legion saw a PGM Hecate II Sniper Rifle with a fail prone, jury-rigged mechanism to work the bolt installed in one of their Over Eagles. Not quite what Lowell had in mind when he designed the upgrade.

Internal Weapons Bay: The Over Eagle has two internal weapons bays, one in each foreleg, that can carry a myriad of weapons. Each weapons bay can carry anything from 12 micro missiles, additional magazines for its assault cannons, additional fully functioning chain-guns, to a hellfire rocket launcher. It is this particular feature more than anything else that has given the Over Eagle its destructive reputation.
+ This upgrade has given the Over Eagle the appearance of larger forelegs. This, and the fact many UN Space Force ‘Chicken Divers’ use Over Eagles, has resulted in the Over Eagle gaining the affectionate nickname ‘Turkey Eagle’.

Hip and Shoulder Mounted Hard points: The Over Eagle also has hard points on the shoulder pauldrons and the hips for additional weapons. Typically Over Eagles load micro missile launchers on their shoulders hard points and leave their hip hardpoints empty to save weight, however, weapon loads can change depending on mission parameters.

ECA: All this extra weaponry comes at a cost, and that cost is weight. To maintain maneuverability and speed, Vincent stripped armor off the Eagle’s shoulders, knees and forearms to reduce the load. To make up for this he included an Energy Conversion Armor system located in the upper back of the TSF in to offset this, meaning that the armor reduction is negligible as long as the ECA is active. However, the ECA is a huge power drain, and as most Over Eagles use conventional turbofan engines to power this component, this has resulted in the Over Eagle having very poor fuel economy when the ECA is active.

Improved Engines: To ensure there would be no loss of speed or agility, the Over Eagle uses upgraded Engines and jump units from the F-15ACTV to offset the weight. Should those not be possible Vincent drew up the option of his ‘quad’ engine, where he put two F-15E Pratts & Witney FE100-PW-220 engines together in a reinforced jump unit to provide the required thrust. While these engines certainly deliver in the field, this configuration, especially compounded with the drain from ECA, is why the F-15E-OT is a considered to be a fuel hog and especially hated by the logistics personnel.

Operational Usage

A fully upgraded and outfitted Over Eagle is design full of tradeoffs. Sometimes referred to as a ‘poor man’s A-10’, the Over Eagle nevertheless has found its own niche on the changing face in modern warfare. The fact that it has impressive firepower without sacrificing speed allows the Over Eagle to keep up with regular Strike Eagles in battle, opening up a wide variety of roles for it to fulfill.

Over Eagles are regularly seen in the company of other TSFs to fulfill the role of Gunsweeper, bringing their massive firepower to bear against their unwitting victims. Others use the Over Eagle as an emergency deployment force. A group of Over Eagles used in this manner would be kept in reserve until they are needed, at which they would be called in to throw up a wall of suppressive fire to cover the escape of a friendly unit or to halt a BETA charge in its tracks. The final example is with the Space Forces, who have equipped many units of their Orbital Divers with Over Eagles. Given their usual mission parameters, the Orbital Divers require a high performance machine with plenty of firepower, irrespective of costs: a need the Over Eagle was all too happy to fulfill.

This is of course, not without some drawbacks. While it is a force to be reckoned with in the field, supplying the Over Eagle with enough fuel and ammunition is a labor in itself. The large number of weapons, multiple types of ammunition its weapons require and poor fuel consumption made the Over Eagle a logistics nightmare. Until TSF scale TE engines and jump engines and Assault Cannon class coil-guns reached full scale production, the Over Eagle could cost as much as four conventional TSF to resupply for a single mission. While pilots only cared about the Over Eagle’s performance on the battlefield and mechanics often liked to tinker around and experiment with various modifications despite the additional workload, logistics personnel across the board absolutely hated the Over Eagle.

The Over Eagle was also woefully equipped for melee combat. Although it carried a large amount of firepower into battle, the Over Eagle was no better equipped than the Strike Eagle for hand to hand combat. Worse, the removal of much of its physical armor made the Over Eagle reliant on the ECA for protection, further increasing its fuel consumption. In the event the ECA becomes inoperable in battle due to damage or malfunction, the Over Eagle is distressingly unarmored and vulnerable to harm and impacts a Strike Eagle could be able to sustain. Also, the internal components of the Over Eagle were found to be more vulnerable to impact damage from collisions from the BETA and environmental damage the reinforced joints and structural frame.

It was these limitations that prevented the Over Eagle from completely supplanting the Strike Eagle. Indeed, many ‘Semi-Over Eagles’ existed for this reason: A Strike Eagle that was partway converted to an Over Eagle. It would have lower performance than a true Over Eagle, but also prevent the Over Eagle's disadvantages from becoming too crippling. However, once the requirement for petroleum fuels and conventional ammunition was removed in 2004, largely due in part to TE engines and next generation Assault Cannons, the full conversions to the Over Eagle became much more prevalent.

While a vast majority of Over Eagles and Semi-Over Eagles were simply upgraded versions of existing Strike Eagles, Boeing manufactured large numbers of Over Eagles for anyone who was willing to purchase them. The UN Space Forces in particular had many of these ‘factory fresh’ Over Eagles delivered directly to their orbital deployment platforms.

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by sasahar17

Hey Goose! Look at this comment! Lolz.

Oh man, John117XCortana... you have no idea.

It will involve Akane and Tasha grappling in the showers, before Tasha casts Yuri Kiss, which causes the Stun effect and Critical Damage to Akane, and that's before we factor in Tasha's attack bonus from the Slender Figure and Nash Ura perks, which also stack with the Defrosted Queen achievement. The resulting effects overwhelm Akane, causing her to melt into Tasha's arms, where Tasha continues her relentless attac-

*Goose is shot by a sniper TSF*

Spoiler for Boening F-15E-OT Over Eagle Writeup:

Boening F-15E-OT Over Eagle

[/QUOTE]

*big grin* Like I said in our emails, really digging the final version, and the recognition that life is full of tradeoffs. Speaking of which...

Spoiler for Visiting:

“What, in the name of all that is good and holy, is that monstrosity?”

“John. What are you here for now?”

“Oh, c’mon Risa, no love for ol’ Johnny?”

“You’ve been acting suspiciously since that joint training exercise,” said Tarisa mildly. “Anyone would be suspicious of you.”

“And yet your background checks on me have uncovered nothing, save that I am who I am,” said John, grinning cheerfully. “To answer your question, I’m visiting in order to strengthen the bonds of friendship between Argos and Garuda, bringing you a gift that is a token of my esteem, and checking out your Over Eagle, because I’ve been wondering if Vinnie could do an Over Hornet…”

[John117xCortana]

More Dakka ! Theres never enough dakka.

[EagleBlue]

Hmm, I'm surprised that Vincent didn't use something like the Linear Actuators on the Over-Eagle for ease of maintenance. Good god, a Type-00 would be an easier machine to use with that in it.

How did Tatsumi get shot down anyways? I would have thought that the Stealth Systems on the Valkyries would have made them hard to find with radar.

And oh, can we expect an Armored Shiranui?

[sasahar17]

Originally Posted by John117xCortana

More Dakka ! Theres never enough dakka.

All that Dakka comes with a cost unfortunately.

…Like an angry crew chief and store officer who wants to gut the trigger happy pilot who just came back in his Over Eagle like a fish. One is ‘pretty angry’ because the pilot just ruined the hot rod paint job the tech crew lovingly put on its armor as dented a good part of the well as their custom stenciled ‘Delta Force owns your ass’ emblem they had on the torso. The other is mouth forming furious because that yahoo of a pilot just fired over 100,000 36mm shells, a few dozen micro missiles, 1000 rounds .50 BMG and guzzled enough fuel to fill a swimming pool in one outing and the budget just got shanked.

I always thought Vinnie was too nice of a technician, because back in my NS days, I remember how ‘upset’ I would get when the operators came to me with something that was perfectly okay a few moments ago..

Originally Posted by EagleBlue

Hmm, I'm surprised that Vincent didn't use something like the Linear Actuators on the Over-Eagle for ease of maintenance. Good god, a Type-00 would be an easier machine to use with that in it.

Yeah, never thought about that.

Well, I’m not sure if liner actuators would help much, since the main problem comes from it being the base Strike Eagle pimped out with more stuff to make shootier. It’s a resource hog, that’s the problem. Still, that’s pretty funny: a Type-00 would be harder to build but ironically easier to keep running since it doesn’t drink fuel and consume ammo like the Over Eagle.

Originally Posted by EagleBlue

How did Tatsumi get shot down anyways? I would have thought that the Stealth Systems on the Valkyries would have made them hard to find with radar.

Well he didn’t get shot down, he actually bailed out from an uncontrolled spin from the transition and his VF-25F ended up in the bay. Said VF-25F is now in Ikaruga’s possession.

Originally Posted by EagleBlue

And oh, can we expect an Armored Shiranui?

Yeah I forgot about those. I’ll work the VF Fubiki and the Armored Shiranui in if I can. Armored Shirnui… heh. Japan’s answer to the Over Eagle maybe?

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Akane and Tasha grappling in the showers, before Tasha casts Yuri Kiss, which causes the Stun effect and Critical Damage to Akane...

Yeeeeeeeeeah, now this is what I’m talking about! Continue good ma-

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

*Goose is shot by a sniper TSF*

NO! Who did this!? Who dares!? It was just getting g-

*Sound of 1200mm Horizon cannon firing, and Sasahar17 disappearing into a red mushroom cloud*

[EagleBlue]

Originally Posted by sasahar17

Yeah, never thought about that.

Well, I’m not sure if liner actuators would help much, since the main problem comes from it being the base Strike Eagle pimped out with more stuff to make shootier. It’s a resource hog, that’s the problem. Still, that’s pretty funny: a Type-00 would be harder to build but ironically easier to keep running since it doesn’t drink fuel and consume ammo like the Over Eagle.

Well it's still something that could help in the long term. They'll waste less resources and time on maintenance.

Wait, Vincent didn't take into account that the Over-Eagles will fight with blades or knives?

Well he didn’t get shot down, he actually bailed out from an uncontrolled spin from the transition and his VF-25F ended up in the bay. Said VF-25F is now in Ikaruga’s possession.

Oh, sorry about that must have misread it.

EDIT: Maybe I shouldn't have posted while tired.

[sasahar17]

Originally Posted by EagleBlue

Well it's still something that could help in the long term. They'll waste less resources and time on maintenance.

Maybe as a later upgrade, and not something every Over Eagle can get immediately. Still I'll keep this in mind.

Originally Posted by EagleBlue

Wait, Vincent didn't take into account that the Over-Eagles will fight with blades or knives?

Well he did, but the Over Eagle just naturally lends itself better to the 'making everything full of holes very quickly' kind of pilot. Besides Macross tech revolves around ranged combat, and the Strike Eagle was never a champion of the melee game. The Over Eagle was just Vinnie playing around to get a feel for the local tech anyway, so best to stick with what's familiar before trying something more radical.

Still keep in mind that as of -Valkyries- Vinnie is in Dover , home of the Eurofighter, Haggis and jolly good German people. Now to find some of that famed German engineering...

[MrTerrorist]

My God that was a good fanfic.
I love there's a one sided rivalry with Yuuko's Valkyries hating Yui's Valkyries for becoming the new Tier 1 group. Now who will snatch Hibiki before who knows what will ruin it?

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by sasahar17

Yeah I forgot about those. I’ll work the VF Fubiki and the Armored Shiranui in if I can. Armored Shirnui… heh. Japan’s answer to the Over Eagle maybe?

IIRC, as an April Fool's Day gag, age actually released designs for VF Fubuki and Armored Shiranui. Is that what you're talking about?

Yeeeeeeeeeah, now this is what I’m talking about! Continue good ma-

NO! Who did this!? Who dares!? It was just getting g-

*Sound of 1200mm Horizon cannon firing, and Sasahar17 disappearing into a red mushroom cloud*

M-m-medic....

Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

My God that was a good fanfic.
I love there's a one sided rivalry with Yuuko's Valkyries hating Yui's Valkyries for becoming the new Tier 1 group. Now who will snatch Hibiki before who knows what will ruin it?

Obviously, it'll be Yuzuka, who doesn't have the issues of her TDA self, nor her axe, and thus she can capture Hibiki's heart, leaving Tasha and Akane to settle for the consolation prize of each other! Hibiki will sit on her lap as she flies her Fubuki into the sunset, and they'll eventually to this and that, while Tasha and Akane continue grappling in the showers. Hibiki realises there is something good about Alternative Earth, as Fortified Suits are waaaay sexier than NUNS flightsuits... though that's a moot point once Yuzuka slinks outta her suit and helps Hibiki outta his coveralls-

"Spooky-1 here. Target confirmed. FCO, hit 'em with the 105."

"Roger pilot, engaging with 105. Firing.

*Goose is killed by AC-130U*

"Good effect on target. He's gone."

[kaizerknight01]

To the writer Macross X Muv luv cross over

looks it even age's Trade mark english

so your the faceless protag in solo unit going into godforsaken hive infiltration .... But you have the power of love supporting you ....and crap load of missiles

hope to see Takeru and of A01 in the fanfic

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by kaizerknight01

hope to see Takeru and of A01 in the fanfic

I doubt I will be see Takeru in this fic because there is another enigmatic Shirogane and if Takeru shows up then Alt IV shouldn't be having problems at all because it should be producing results but in this fic. Its not progressing at all. I feel it will be like in unlimited specially when Hibiki is telling story about humanity going to space.

They should hijack the space carrier for Alt V and use it to go to space. But really......... I'm having problems with Valkyrie project because it won't show immediate redemption and way to attack the beta unlike unit 00. The project Valkyrie will take time before the counter attack begun. But nonetheless its an awesome fic. Like Yuzuka and Hibiki moments.

[Angrypokstick]

Originally Posted by sasahar17

Still keep in mind that as of -Valkyries- Vinnie is in Dover , home of the Eurofighter, Haggis and jolly good German people. Now to find some of that famed German engineering...

this implied back story between Macross!Ilfriede von Feulner and Makabe Seijyurou intrigues me. yes please continue.

[wavehawk]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/w...era-in-russia/
...the BETA have arrived. Anyone up to write a BETA invasion in the real world fic?

[tsunade666]

why only Ilfriede? why not bring the other two from cerberus too?