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Vigo · 2013-05-02, 22:57

I see nothing wrong with having PS2 or below average PS3 graphics even on the PS4.

I want my niche games on consoles and I don't care how they look like.

Newprimus · 2013-05-02, 23:15

With android and apple devices becoming more and more powerful, it's just weird when you can put something like a visual novel on an android tablet for instance and have it be perfectly fine, but then opt to put it on a PS4 with its high-performance specs and serious gaming mentality. And if you want the big TV resolution, I'm sure there's a way to stream the footage on the tablet onto the TV.

Kirayuki · 2013-05-02, 23:28

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Originally Posted by Shinova

And if you want the big TV resolution, I'm sure there's a way to stream the footage on the tablet onto the TV.

Some people doesn't like the complexity or having time to deal/bother with this if they simply just want to have bigger screen without hassle.

Vigo · 2013-05-02, 23:42

Again what is wrong with having below average graphics? How is a visual novel not serious gaming? Just because the specs are high doesn't mean everyone has to push them. NIS, Gust and Falcom games are not less serious or less games just because they aren't part of the master race. Not everyone can go for cutting edge graphics and they don't need to. If they are comfortable with PS2-PS3 levels it's totally fine. They are video games and belong on a video game console.

Newprimus · 2013-05-03, 00:21

You're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying there's anything wrong. I'm saying it's just weird seeing something as heavy metal as PS4 being put to work on something as low-power as visual novels or something like Disgaea.

It's like using a forklift to arrange teacups or something. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it's pretty absurd in a funny, not insulting way.

Vigo · 2013-05-03, 01:19

Yes I see what you mean and it is funny. But just because the hardware is high end doesn't mean everyone can use it. Dev cost are high. And creating high end assets is expensive. A niche company can't afford that. They simply don't have enough money or manpower to do that. If a company like NIS or Falcom had the manpower and budge of someone like Square you would see FF levels. And even if they could, creating niche games with high end graphics that sell niche numbers would be suicide for them.

That doen't mean they don't improve their output. I mean look at Gust or Falcom and he jump from Rorona to Ayesha or Zero to Sen. People go "meh" but the jump is significant. It just that they are much slower.

Also VN is a genre that doesn't benefit much from high end hardware. They can improve the art, include animated scenes, higher res but that's pretty much it. In the end they are just interactive texts with pictures. Unless of course they are hybrids.

Dextro · 2013-05-03, 15:42

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Originally Posted by Shinova

With android and apple devices becoming more and more powerful, it's just weird when you can put something like a visual novel on an android tablet for instance and have it be perfectly fine, but then opt to put it on a PS4 with its high-performance specs and serious gaming mentality. And if you want the big TV resolution, I'm sure there's a way to stream the footage on the tablet onto the TV.

Namco listened to you apparently. They're releasing the idolm@ster rhythm games for the iPhone!

The iPhone!

THE iPHONE!

Meanwhile my Vita is gathering dust (aside from Zero Escape, that one was awesome. More please)

(see? this works both ways. I actually like buttons for my gaming)

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-09, 17:13

Oh dear lord

Sony’s PlayStation 4 Marketing Slogan Is "Greatness Awaits"

You guys are not going to believe this...

Quote:

Sony is going to give PlayStation 4 a big marketing push and the keywords behind it are "Greatness Awaits." Siliconera obtained a leak from a company working on the campaign. The commercial starts off by showing an empty road in a small town. A lone guy walks down the road towards the camera and says, "Who are you not to be great? You, with the imagination of a brilliant child and the powers of an ancient god."

Newprimus · 2013-05-10, 00:12

That is silly. Like Evil Dead kind of silly. At least they're playing up the players and customers to be gods, as opposed to Microsoft who sometimes seem to play themselves up to be god and customers its minions.

Westlo · 2013-05-10, 00:51

Nothing wrong with saying the truth.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-10, 03:09

Making something so absurb that it becomes awesome is right up the Japanese's alley

Cosmic Eagle · 2013-05-10, 05:39

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Making something so absurb that it becomes awesome is right up the Japanese's alley

Appealing to the inner chuu2. I approve

SOGESNAKE · 2013-05-10, 05:54

Hey.... I'm fine with whatever they wanna do... as long as they stay far.... FAR away from another one of THESE commercials...

Xagzan · 2013-05-10, 09:02

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Oh dear lord

Sony’s PlayStation 4 Marketing Slogan Is "Greatness Awaits"

You guys are not going to believe this...

I don't see the big deal about the greatness claim. What are they supposed to say? "Mediocrity Awaits?"

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-10, 09:12

Read the advertisement they have in mind.

Westlo · 2013-05-10, 10:10

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Originally Posted by SOGESNAKE

Hey.... I'm fine with whatever they wanna do... as long as they stay far.... FAR away from another one of THESE commercials...

lmao

Still doesn't beat this ps2 one.

Sides · 2013-05-18, 06:03

Small interview on siliconera with silicon studios, which is worth reading siliconera.
Probably more interesting for Sony and SE fans.
With MGR:R PC port and the PS4 moving to x86 architecture, consoles could see a real competition this generation from PC, especially in japan.
Make sure to check out their videos of their engine

Soverence · 2013-05-18, 06:36

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Originally Posted by Westlo

lmao

Still doesn't beat this ps2 one.

wtf does that have to do with anything, my god all the people at Sony in charge of making tv commercials must be doing some hard drugs that is for sure

. Well I guess that these kind of crazy commercials are memorable, just for how much they stand out compared to other commercials.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-18, 07:21

Makes you wonder why Japan isn't known for their crack

Westlo · 2013-05-19, 09:39

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Makes you wonder why Japan isn't known for their crack

lol I don't think Japan is to blame for that one.

Kaz - Kutaragi-san, was that your commercial?
Ken - I.... don't know

2013-05-02, 23:15	Link #282
Newprimus NO ESCAPE FROM NYAAA Artist Join Date: Jan 2004	With android and apple devices becoming more and more powerful, it's just weird when you can put something like a visual novel on an android tablet for instance and have it be perfectly fine, but then opt to put it on a PS4 with its high-performance specs and serious gaming mentality. And if you want the big TV resolution, I'm sure there's a way to stream the footage on the tablet onto the TV. __________________ NYAA-CEPTION

2013-05-03, 00:21	Link #285
Newprimus NO ESCAPE FROM NYAAA Artist Join Date: Jan 2004	You're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying there's anything wrong. I'm saying it's just weird seeing something as heavy metal as PS4 being put to work on something as low-power as visual novels or something like Disgaea. It's like using a forklift to arrange teacups or something. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it's pretty absurd in a funny, not insulting way. __________________ NYAA-CEPTION

2013-05-10, 00:12	Link #289
Newprimus NO ESCAPE FROM NYAAA Artist Join Date: Jan 2004	That is silly. Like Evil Dead kind of silly. At least they're playing up the players and customers to be gods, as opposed to Microsoft who sometimes seem to play themselves up to be god and customers its minions. __________________ NYAA-CEPTION

2013-05-10, 03:09	Link #291
Chaos2Frozen Spherical Cow Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In a vacuum Age: 29	Making something so absurb that it becomes awesome is right up the Japanese's alley __________________

2013-05-10, 05:54	Link #293
SOGESNAKE NEW WORLD BABY~! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Raftel Age: 26	Hey.... I'm fine with whatever they wanna do... as long as they stay far.... FAR away from another one of THESE commercials... <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/tbW165G0Bvk">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> __________________

2013-05-02, 22:57	Link #281
Vigo too lazy to post Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany Age: 28	I see nothing wrong with having PS2 or below average PS3 graphics even on the PS4. I want my niche games on consoles and I don't care how they look like.

2013-05-02, 23:42	Link #284
Vigo too lazy to post Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany Age: 28	Again what is wrong with having below average graphics? How is a visual novel not serious gaming? Just because the specs are high doesn't mean everyone has to push them. NIS, Gust and Falcom games are not less serious or less games just because they aren't part of the master race. Not everyone can go for cutting edge graphics and they don't need to. If they are comfortable with PS2-PS3 levels it's totally fine. They are video games and belong on a video game console.

2013-05-03, 01:19	Link #286
Vigo too lazy to post Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany Age: 28	Yes I see what you mean and it is funny. But just because the hardware is high end doesn't mean everyone can use it. Dev cost are high. And creating high end assets is expensive. A niche company can't afford that. They simply don't have enough money or manpower to do that. If a company like NIS or Falcom had the manpower and budge of someone like Square you would see FF levels. And even if they could, creating niche games with high end graphics that sell niche numbers would be suicide for them. That doen't mean they don't improve their output. I mean look at Gust or Falcom and he jump from Rorona to Ayesha or Zero to Sen. People go "meh" but the jump is significant. It just that they are much slower. Also VN is a genre that doesn't benefit much from high end hardware. They can improve the art, include animated scenes, higher res but that's pretty much it. In the end they are just interactive texts with pictures. Unless of course they are hybrids.

2013-05-10, 00:51	Link #290
Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007	Nothing wrong with saying the truth.

2013-05-10, 09:12	Link #295
Chaos2Frozen Spherical Cow Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In a vacuum Age: 29	Read the advertisement they have in mind. __________________ Last edited by Chaos2Frozen; 2013-05-10 at 10:46.

2013-05-18, 06:03	Link #297
Sides Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 36	Small interview on siliconera with silicon studios, which is worth reading siliconera. Probably more interesting for Sony and SE fans. With MGR:R PC port and the PS4 moving to x86 architecture, consoles could see a real competition this generation from PC, especially in japan. Make sure to check out their videos of their engine

2013-05-18, 07:21	Link #299
Chaos2Frozen Spherical Cow Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In a vacuum Age: 29	Makes you wonder why Japan isn't known for their crack __________________