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View Poll Results: Hanasaku Iroha - Episode 18 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 14 | 24.56% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 12 | 21.05% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 10 | 17.54% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 11 | 19.30% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 9 | 15.79% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.75% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll |
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2011-08-02, 16:55 | Link #61 |
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I have to agree with those who say this series should have been one-cour or, more likely, two one-cour series this might have improved the second cour if not er... well at least we could have told people to skip the second season.
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2011-08-02, 17:16 | Link #62 | ||
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(Have yet to see the episode)
@Guardian Enzo: I should point out that the lower post traffic isn't really a sign that the show should've been a single cour, since sub forums will always generate lower traffic the longer they are around here, unless they are really, really popular to begin with, where they maintain around the same level of activity to the end. Anyway being someone who has been enjoying this show from the start (and never quite having a strong negative reaction except at 17th and the 8th episode really, and that changed in retrospect when episode 9 came along) I always thought I saw what the other side who had been disappointed in the show. Be it the expectation that the show would maintain the same level of visual quality (it still looks great, though not at the same level as the first episode, and I haven't heard anything but praise for the visual side anyway) or that the writing would take a better turn (is still can be clever, but I can never call it superb) and really, at this point I can attribute it to people being jaded in how ADD Okada's writing can be. I was never a fan of Okada (last week TJR nailed exactly what I thought of her), maybe that's why I've been more accepting of how this show had developed writing wise (since I was expecting much worse) and had been more focused on the cast that I liked and other positives of the show to really be annoyed. Still, I personally still enjoy this show regardless of some of it's shortcomings. It's still visually pleasing, the cast is still fun, some episodes were very great etc. Which, as long as this show gives me those sort of episodes, I'll be happy with. It's what I've come to expect from this show at this point, and I'm pretty content, since this isn't what I consider a bad show by any stretch, just one that is easily distracted. Quote:
Between Jun and Okada, it's like asking for your shows to not really be that great. But anyway, the studio only has four titles to their name. I'm more than welling to come back to any of their shows again, if only for the production values and directors. Writing in anime isn't all that great generally anyway. Quote:
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2011-08-02, 17:26 | Link #63 | |
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Hmm, I decided to enter my episode ratings into a spreadsheet, and while I will say there's quite a notable episode, the more offensive ones tend to leave a worst impact in the memory. It does seem that for every good episode, a rather annoying thing tends to happen
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2011-08-02, 17:28 | Link #64 | ||||
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If I didn't care quite so much about artstyle/animation quality, my opinion would probably be closer to yours. Quote:
Mind you, my expectations of the two of them may naturally adjust after their most recent PA Works contributions. Quote:
Now, a closer comparison to the last few episodes of Hanasaku Iroha would be, imo, the first half of Shana Season 2... but I get the impression that anime fans are more divided on that than on E8, so I went with the 'safer' comparison. The comparison that, I had thought, would be less likely to spur disagreement (i.e. "What do you mean Shana Season 2's First Half wasn't paced well?"). Quote:
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2011-08-02, 18:17 | Link #65 |
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It's a strange choice to give such a sizable cast such an all-or-nothing character spotlight. Everyone gets an episode or two of laser-focused attention, and then it's over, with some characters even being relegated to whatever-happened-to status.
I think it's telling that Ohana's arcs are the best received. Even with her being the lead, I don't think I'm entirely crazy in suggesting that a lot of that has to do with the fact that you can follow her from week to week. It's difficult to all but introduce a previously ignored character, and give them a satisfying character arc in under 20 minutes. Now, all that aside, I enjoyed this episode. It doesn't hurt that Nako is adorable, but I think it helps that we've already gotten to know her. There was a lot of inner monologue, but it almost wasn't needed, because we have a vague sense of what's on her mind already. It's those characters who get a recurring focus who end up the most interesting in this show, because you can sort of grok where they're coming from, but you don't know so much that it stops being fun to speculate. I'm thinking mostly of Ohana, Nako, Sui, Minko and maybe Satsuki. |
2011-08-03, 23:35 | Link #68 | |
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Of all the guys who could have approached Nako and her friends because they thought she was attractive, of course they had to be portrayed as total fools. Jiromaru and Enishi, Renji and Beanman have their romantic interests, real and imagined played for jokes. The only ones immune are Kou and Tohru because they are both very passive regarding romance at heart. |
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2011-08-08, 06:48 | Link #73 | |
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For the part where Nako dressed in very short skirt, what I get is that not every girl who exposes themselves like to be looked at. Now then, what I don't get is that the guys fault that they are attracted and stares at the girl, is it the girl's fault for wearing sexy dress? Being a prune myself, I think they are both at fault, for having wrong belief, but their action is not unexpected. But does that mean if we do not know what can be harmful, we do not have to held responsibility? I do not think that's the case, but that's just my own thinking. |
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2011-08-08, 21:40 | Link #75 |
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Being a Nako fan, this episode was honestly all that I could've hoped for her, though it would've worked better out had Nako gotten the same treatment as Minko with getting more developed in the background rather than have it all become a point in the finale stretch of the show, but again, I don't mind it at all.
I liked the way that this episode sort of ties back to how episode 3 was supposedly a Nako episode also, though the connection doesn't surface unless that episode is re-watched. Nako is clearly a creature of the sea which is why I love her so much which is why she had no problem back then diving from the top of a rock to the sea, and displayed a more initiative taking action that wasn't clear in her personality at first. Heck, even back in episode 14 when she took the chance to go swimming at midnight rather than rest. The sea is her domain, she has full control when she is there. So naturally, it made sense for her to have dreams of the sea, or make metaphors about her home being her comfort zone by comparing the two, or even trying to break out of her insecurities by swimming to the surface. This is the sort of insight that this show manages to give it's characters that I welcome, and much like Tomoe's episode had done, I find myself more understanding of why Nako was so drawn back all the time from others, since she herself treats everywhere else as uncharted territory where she has no clue where to go or how to really act when she meets anyone there (other than flee) I'm also sort of glad that the show is making usage of one aspect that I always considered interesting, and that instead of keeping all the ideas and things she couldn't say in her head, she wrote them down, like everyone does in this show. I guess that the point of the episode wasn't so much that Nako shouldn't aspire to change, but that being current her isn't completely bad at all. In fact, her being less outgoing might have helped her along, since she managed to organize and note down her thoughts so that they would be more useful to the guests. Overall, this episode gets a 10/10 from me. My favorite character got her episode, and it was great. One thing that this show made me hopeful to see from P.A. Works in the future (other than dumping a certain writer for good) is that they make a film adaption of the Little Mermaid, or make a show set in an underwater world. It would look fantastic.
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2013-06-10, 12:03 | Link #77 |
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Really nice episode. I knew Nako was wonderful before, but she is even better than that it seems. So sweet and so thoughtful. Epic win
Yuina still comes across as a shallow rich daughter more used to go shopping and spending money than doing anything else. Her reactions when Ohana mentions she can't afford things is just selfish and poor. |
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