2013-08-12, 14:18 | Link #2661 | ||||
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Also, Tigre already has some legitimacy in the form of heroism and patriotism (though it was really more the byproduct of his protecting Alsace). He repelled the Muozinel forces while greatly outnumbered. This is also the reason all those other Brune knights joined up. And again, once the hostilities started between him and Thernadier, the need for "legitimacy" could have been put off until after he buried Thernadier. Quote:
Also, I have to reiterate the problem that comes with bureaucracy and self-interest. While the more neutral factions will be debating whether or not Tigre is lying with his proof, Ganelon and Thernadier will both KNOW it's true, so will take action immediately. There's even a possible outcome where the more neutral factions are disappointed with how the King crumbled after Regin's "death," and how he makes the country appear weak, so they might actually PREFER siding with Ganelon and Thernadier. Especially how since between the two Dukes, the majority of military power in Brune is controlled by them. (Massas's estimation has Thernadier at 30%, Ganelon at 30%, and 40% for EVERYONE else. And of those 40%, 3/4 are the knights who protect the borders. Which means it's basically 6 to 1 against Tigre, even IF all the other nobles united under Tigre.) Quote:
And while Steid's death was beneficial, there's no way that was part of the motivation for going to look for Regin's proof. Thus, it cannot be a factor into the decision-making process of Tigre. Last edited by Rasen; 2013-08-12 at 14:33. |
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2013-08-12, 15:08 | Link #2662 |
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I'll admit, my third premise is more of a side comment regarding the author's plot devices.
The problem with trying to define Tigre's motivations is that his own selfishness is tied up almost entirely with acting for the sake of others. Since he is already prepared go so far as to lay down his life for perfect strangers if he deems them to be in need, it becomes that much more difficult to gauge his actions based on any special affections he might hold for one particular individual. This is double the case for Regin, who, with the exception of Sasha, has so far received the least interactions with him. Besides establishing the customary physical attraction flag during the bathing scene, they only speak a handful or so of times before Tigre returns to Zhcted, and most of that time in the presence of others, so we as readers can't do much more than speculate at how things are developing. |
2013-08-13, 10:41 | Link #2668 |
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After reading Volume 6.. I start to note that Tigre can gain trust for many Factions...
On Navarre (If i recalled it correctly) are the Mercenaries trusting him During his early POW he gain trust from Ellen It seems Tigre's influence is way spreading naturally and makes him a natural born leader, many volume already telling his provement of being a natural leader. |
2013-08-13, 13:10 | Link #2669 |
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still... no one would believe that a mere Master Ranger (well, he technically is since his mastery with the bow and of his fieldcraft) could gain such a massive alliance, hell even having contacts to rulers such as Regin at Brune and even impressing other rulers like the King and the Vanadis.
he could freakin form his own PMC with this.... also, he COULD go for the open end in which his offspring will be with the girls who liek him hard. hey who knows maybe some of them might be rangers like their father or strategists or what.
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2013-08-13, 20:12 | Link #2671 | |
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"Nation shall be ruled not through might, but wisdom" Tigre probably is the example that he was not driven himself through lust of power, instead he will use the power of Black Bow when it was necessary. He also considering every strategy wants to end the war fast and trying to minimize the number of casualty. Even Tigre is still ruler of Alsace unofficialy, he came with good purposes on every Kingdom and so many High Ranked people trusting him because of his decision that was not undertaken lightly. |
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2013-08-13, 21:20 | Link #2672 |
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I think the opposite is going on: the founding of a nation relies on might, but ruling one requires wisdom. At times of chaos, the most important aspect is to survive and have the power to protect those who challenge you. Taking a peek in history: a lot of "heroes" are praised for their military conquest, and not their ability to rule their nation.
Not saying you can have one without the other, but I think in Tigre's case, his successes are built upon might. Not only personal might but also military might (with a lot of help from Lim). He tries to stand on a moral solid ground for his campaign. I consider wisdom is something he initially lacked (politically speaking it seem the older generations form the backbone). In my eyes he is still a developing ruler who is still gaining experience. His little journey in v6 and 7 allow him to open his eyes a little. At one point of he will have to start thinking things in a much bigger picture, and just think "this is what I want to achieve and that is how I am going to reach my goal". As a shonen novel the novel would not point out possible political failures in Tigre's part. For a regular peasant in Brune, the concept of your country relying the assistance of your neighbor, as well as having to yield precious land to them is still a hard pill to swallow despite it ending the civil war (and the land deal was purely strategical). Tigre also doesn't have to deal with the chaos after a cival war: things like, new nobles trying to raise to power, take advantage of the weakened state, military and economy wise. (You can compare her with Ellen who push to benefit from her contribution, and try to gain long term benefits such as establishing a new trade route - ofc, whoever operated the previous route... forgot who... might not be too happy about it, but once again the novel wouldn't/haven't mentioned something like that yet) |
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2013-08-14, 05:42 | Link #2678 | |
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Do you guys think that Tigre will command entire Kingdom troops to fight against Ancient Monsters? Because i get a smell that Monsters will start not one by one again after many failed attempt to get Tigre's Black Bow, instead it's an army. In fort Lux it's still one by one even the Commander is a Monster (Leicester) but the soldier didn't notices it. Backup are Superior Commander itself when the time comes (Such as 7 Vanadis, Tallard Graham and many superior commander are willing to aid Tigre) to fight the Ancient Monster. That's just my predictions.. But i kinda got a hunch for it.. |
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